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all right I think we're going to get

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11:00 all right we're gonna move very

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tightly first dr. Edgar Mitchell Apollo

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14 astronaut will speak to you for a few

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minutes and then immediately following

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that major Milton Torres US Air Force

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retired will speak to you for a few

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minutes and then you may ask questions

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of dr. Torres and dr. Mitchell after

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appropriate amount of questions then

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Nick Pope a former senior executive with

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the ministry of defense in the UK will

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speak to you for a few minutes and at

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one moment I had two extras someone who

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has that press release handed to Nick

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yes which someone give knit the press

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release play steady please please read

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all right and thank you very good after

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Richard Dolan will speak briefly about

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announcement about his second book very

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important book following up his first

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very important book and then Alfred

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Weber will speak briefly regarding a UN

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initiative that is making headway all

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right and take two questions and then

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regarding significant breakthrough and

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physical evidence research obviously

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related to this issue and then he will

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mention is that all of the speakers

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including dr. Mitchell dr. Torres Nick

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available for further interviews after

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happy to talk with anybody at that time

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so with that I'm going to move on one

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second I will now call to the podium a

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distinguished American a man who is in

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fact someone who has the right stuff

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selection to a NASA Apollo program moon

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mission selection to a NASA Apollo moon

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noetic Sciences develop a number of

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scientific exploration initiatives a man

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whose received far more Awards than I

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some things to say to you this morning I

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would like him to come forward now

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dr. Mitchell thank you very much for

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my story with regard to the disclosure

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process is very simple I grew up in

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UFO crash the alleged UFO crash and my

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when on one day the Raj will record

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announced that a alien craft had crashed

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weather balloon and since I was on my

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many many years later that they didn't

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the moon they considered me reliable

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family of the Undertaker who provided

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remember what date it was right now when

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with a navy commander of the name of

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will Miller and dr. Steven Greer and we

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have were able to get an appointment at

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the Pentagon to talk about what we knew

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who are what we allegedly knew what we

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story and the powers would be at the

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Intelligence Committee of the Joint

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Chiefs of Staff listen to our story and

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said the Admiral said well I don't know

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that story I don't know that that's true

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subsequently learned through dr. Greer

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stories had been confirmed and that the

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Admiral had been denied access when he

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that process and we had from

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Admiral now just denies the fact that

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essentially that I do have no first-hand

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experience with the et effort except the

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fact that I know all of these research

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those some who are not here today who

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and time and doing research into the

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alien visitation UFO crashes and so

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doubtful read the books read the lore

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being a space fair of our civilization

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from space the universe that we live in

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or wondrous exciting complex and

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far-reaching that we were ever able to

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fact we have wondered were we alone in

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the universe forever only in our period

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do we really have evidence no we're not

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life on it and probably it is time now

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that we are spacefarers on our planet

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that we get active because we're really

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universal beings and in the long stretch

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longest possible range we've realized

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astronomy and astrophysics our Sun will

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burn out in due course and we have to be

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to survive so anybody any species any

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of nation of planets just like when we

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across the next mountains and we started

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out beyond ourselves at this point in

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human history on this planet we're now

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aircraft in less than a hundred years

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moon in less than a hundred years is a

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history of the development of our

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couple of generations and so it's time

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21st century we suddenly find that due

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to our expertise and our genius and

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science and technology we have exploded

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unacceptable rate a non sustainable rate

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about what being an advanced

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civilization really means but let's put

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all that aside for a moment because here

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to talk about disclosure and what I am

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suggesting is it is now time to put away

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this embargo of truth about the alien

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presence and I call upon our government

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to open up like other governments have

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and you will hear about that this

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like the Belgians have the French have

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the Brazilians have the Argentine's the

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Mexicans have all released their files

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it's about time now that we do the same

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thing and become a part of this

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planetary community that is now trying

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to take our proper role as spacefaring

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civilization thank you very much for

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your patience

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all right I would not like to bring like

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a bring forward Thank You comments dr.

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Milton Torres dr. Torres all right a

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little slow by the way dr. Torres and

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dr. Mitchell about a year and a half

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apart as a matter of fact we never met

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until today or this session when he

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launched I was there I was chief of

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arrange control of the time Cape Kennedy

283
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it's amazing how you work your way up

284
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and he went to the moon I just said

285
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there watched him I'm gonna make a real

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brief one on my biology and my

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biographer or whatever you want to call

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it my father was born in Key West in

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1888 he went north to New York to make

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his fortune whatever it was well he was

291
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getting kind of old and he sided well I

292
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want to go back home to Florida so he

293
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took him back in 1950 to Florida and

294
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there I stayed until the Korean War when

295
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the Korean broke War broke out I said

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geez I want to fly I don't want I don't

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want to go into the army I don't like

298
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laying in mud so so I went to the Air

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Force and it said sign me up and they

300
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did I didn't know that I was a luckiest

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guy in the world when I was in the Air

302
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Force they said would you like to be a

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pilot

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boy the greatest thing I had no college

305
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had nothing and I volunteered and lo and

306
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behold I was in the top of my class not

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the very topic you know right number 10

308
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or something like that but we would have

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our choice of airplanes when we

310
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graduated from flight training and I

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picked a fighter

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I wanted to f-86 F to go to Korea and

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shoot down some ace I mean that that's

314
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the way it was in those days they

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disappointed me in one sense they gave

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me an f-86 but not enough I gave me the

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D model

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the D model was a new all-weather

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version so that we can have somebody

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launch an alert to go after the bad guys

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whoever they may be coming in they they

322
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they equipped us with nice radar set so

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we can tell everything from from on an

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interceptor and my first assignment out

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of f-86d school was RAF station Manston

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don't forget it's with oldest base in

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England and the RAF I carry it right

328
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here bottom line we finally became

329
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combat ready we went down to Tripoli

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Willis f4 space fired rocketry so we got

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pretty damn good at shooting down

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whatever is this gonna come get us

333
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so they sent us back so he to England

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and we became combat ready which meant

335
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we have we were going to share with the

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RAF the defense of Britain during the

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Cold War years the reason they sent the

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f-86 over there because none of you had

339
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to fly weather like like they have in

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England but they have it from the ground

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up it's infinity and it's a solid it's

342
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like what they call a piece of fog

343
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I can't I couldn't I had a Buick at the

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time I couldn't see my hood ornament

345
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most of the time because it was just

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that bad anyway we they were selected us

347
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to sit alert and we sat alert we said

348
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we're sitting on the end of the runway

349
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and mind you the runway in advance and

350
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Manson was a recovery base for all the

351
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bombers in World War two when they got

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shot up and they got shot up they've

353
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brought up and Manson was the very first

354
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place they'd see in England because it's

355
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just north of Dover on the Thames

356
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Estuary and it's just huge runway which

357
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is 750 feet wide you don't find those

358
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anymore and that that was such a wide

359
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runway you could take a whole squadron

360
00:18:33,779 --> 00:18:37,410
off

361
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same time that for takeoff which we

362
00:18:37,410 --> 00:18:42,930
didn't do but we went off two at a time

363
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usually but the bottom line was we're

364
00:18:42,930 --> 00:18:49,470
sitting at large and sure enough the

365
00:18:45,839 --> 00:18:51,779
klaxon goes off and was scrambled and we

366
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had a kind of a deal monster fighter

367
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pilots the first one to the air the

368
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runway is the lead I he liked it to be

369
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the first and I got there anyway you got

370
00:19:00,059 --> 00:19:04,589
when I got there and took off they

371
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scrambled it they said adding a zero to

372
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zero and they gave us the frequency of

373
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gzi and said contact UCI when you're

374
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:17,970
airborne I did and when I did and mind

375
00:19:13,799 --> 00:19:21,029
you I was only 25 years old I was you

376
00:19:17,970 --> 00:19:23,819
know a kid so to speak when when they

377
00:19:21,029 --> 00:19:24,809
call or when I talked to the GC I we

378
00:19:23,819 --> 00:19:28,230
were gonna warn you

379
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we're going to have a hot mission you

380
00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:32,099
will have to fire all your rockets

381
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select 24 that's all that's all the

382
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Rockets we had 24 and I boy that that

383
00:19:36,539 --> 00:19:42,059
ever scared the hell out of me anyway I

384
00:19:39,539 --> 00:19:44,220
reached down selected the 24 rockets

385
00:19:42,059 --> 00:19:47,700
like they said and then I said you know

386
00:19:44,220 --> 00:19:49,500
this is serious I'm going to go through

387
00:19:47,700 --> 00:19:52,170
the authentication procedure please give

388
00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:56,579
me the authentication code because when

389
00:19:52,170 --> 00:19:58,320
I was USAF on an RAF mission to shoot

390
00:19:56,579 --> 00:20:00,869
down whatever it was I was going to go

391
00:19:58,319 --> 00:20:03,569
after so they gave me the correct

392
00:20:00,869 --> 00:20:07,019
authentication which we had a top-secret

393
00:20:03,569 --> 00:20:10,049
piece of paper with a matrix on it so it

394
00:20:07,019 --> 00:20:13,259
would depending on the time and where

395
00:20:10,049 --> 00:20:16,919
you were you go down and he gets three

396
00:20:13,259 --> 00:20:19,079
letters and ABC and they come back X Y Z

397
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,960
or whatever it was because I sure don't

398
00:20:19,079 --> 00:20:24,569
remember I was so spooked at a rate that

399
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:27,779
meant it was for real I was in

400
00:20:24,569 --> 00:20:30,569
afterburner and I said I'd like to come

401
00:20:27,779 --> 00:20:34,170
out of afterburner it said no go gate

402
00:20:30,569 --> 00:20:36,929
stay gate that was the symbol for going

403
00:20:34,170 --> 00:20:39,180
after burner because we want you get

404
00:20:36,930 --> 00:20:41,460
this guy he's been orbiting if switch

405
00:20:39,180 --> 00:20:44,640
and he wasn't in that area and we're

406
00:20:41,460 --> 00:20:46,240
going to get you there it took us out

407
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:49,470
over England

408
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:52,990
over France I'm sorry and turn this back

409
00:20:49,470 --> 00:20:55,420
the firing heading was some around three

410
00:20:52,990 --> 00:20:57,609
five zero something like that but that's

411
00:20:55,420 --> 00:20:59,620
not important what's important is we

412
00:20:57,609 --> 00:21:01,359
were in the soup and I mean it was solid

413
00:20:59,619 --> 00:21:03,879
it was two thirty two thousand feet and

414
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:06,939
we never saw each other I had my wingman

415
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:09,760
with me until until we broke off and he

416
00:21:06,940 --> 00:21:12,759
went in trail with me and if you ask me

417
00:21:09,759 --> 00:21:15,329
who my wingman is I don't remember his

418
00:21:12,759 --> 00:21:19,390
name it was a new guy in the squadron

419
00:21:15,329 --> 00:21:22,269
that was the end of that but anyway on

420
00:21:19,390 --> 00:21:24,280
the way up we were they were positioning

421
00:21:22,269 --> 00:21:28,359
us to make this intercept on this

422
00:21:24,279 --> 00:21:30,639
orbiting vehicle apparently somebody

423
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:34,029
made a decision to shoot him down before

424
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,740
I was launched I didn't know that but he

425
00:21:34,029 --> 00:21:37,720
they finally here was our final vector

426
00:21:35,740 --> 00:21:39,549
we went in there and they said be

427
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:43,750
advised you'll have a bogey in 32

428
00:21:39,549 --> 00:21:47,109
degrees at 15 miles on the port side and

429
00:21:43,750 --> 00:21:50,650
sure enough when I started penny I got

430
00:21:47,109 --> 00:21:52,269
this blob I was not a blip as a blob it

431
00:21:50,650 --> 00:21:55,120
was about the size you get of an

432
00:21:52,269 --> 00:21:57,549
aircraft carrier in the North Sea when

433
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,329
you when you was painted them this was

434
00:21:57,549 --> 00:22:01,359
humongous

435
00:21:58,329 --> 00:22:02,799
for me it was so strong that it

436
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,109
literally I didn't have to do anything

437
00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:08,019
to lock-on except get the range gate

438
00:22:05,109 --> 00:22:09,669
marker near where the blip was and boy

439
00:22:08,019 --> 00:22:11,920
when it did it just automatically the

440
00:22:09,670 --> 00:22:14,500
lights went out everything you know and

441
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:17,100
you had firing information already it

442
00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:22,769
was one of those things that just was a

443
00:22:17,099 --> 00:22:27,099
storybook fight so I was going in and at

444
00:22:22,769 --> 00:22:30,279
20 seconds to go we on the lock-on we

445
00:22:27,099 --> 00:22:32,319
start our final penetrations of fire now

446
00:22:30,279 --> 00:22:35,500
the the information we get from the

447
00:22:32,319 --> 00:22:38,289
radar says this guy was going fast at

448
00:22:35,500 --> 00:22:40,539
this time he was going about maybe a

449
00:22:38,289 --> 00:22:43,659
hundred knots faster than I was and I

450
00:22:40,539 --> 00:22:46,058
was at Martin point 92 which was all the

451
00:22:43,660 --> 00:22:51,190
f-86d can do it's not like the modern

452
00:22:46,058 --> 00:22:53,710
Jets but anyway as I was going in and I

453
00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:57,100
had a strong good steering information I

454
00:22:53,710 --> 00:22:59,039
was expecting what we call the last

455
00:22:57,099 --> 00:23:01,679
phase the phase 3

456
00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:03,750
where you get a line all the circles

457
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,730
disappear and use all you have to do is

458
00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:07,890
take a little dot and put it on that

459
00:23:05,730 --> 00:23:10,380
line and keep your finger on the trigger

460
00:23:07,890 --> 00:23:12,960
well sure enough I started getting down

461
00:23:10,380 --> 00:23:14,970
there ready to fire and I know the

462
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:18,289
circle started coming down and the next

463
00:23:14,970 --> 00:23:21,930
thing I know the overtake went from

464
00:23:18,289 --> 00:23:25,440
whatever was my speed it was about a

465
00:23:21,930 --> 00:23:30,560
thousand nuts something like that so if

466
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:34,350
he to off estimated about ten of Mach 10

467
00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:36,149
in an airplane instead you go Mach 10

468
00:23:34,349 --> 00:23:39,359
you know airplanes will go to mark 10

469
00:23:36,150 --> 00:23:41,610
not that I haven't be seen and this was

470
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,619
never made up by a human being this was

471
00:23:41,609 --> 00:23:45,599
something that was totally different no

472
00:23:43,619 --> 00:23:48,929
I never said he could do things that I

473
00:23:45,599 --> 00:23:50,429
couldn't do he could stop and start and

474
00:23:48,930 --> 00:23:52,590
keep going in everything else but he

475
00:23:50,430 --> 00:23:54,480
took off and he took off and had two

476
00:23:52,589 --> 00:23:56,939
sweeps on the ground he was off their

477
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:59,490
scope he was off my sculpt sooner than

478
00:23:56,940 --> 00:24:01,680
that but as soon as that that happened

479
00:23:59,490 --> 00:24:07,079
the mission was over and I couldn't fire

480
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:09,450
so another way down the GC I controlled

481
00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:10,949
says contact us on the landline we have

482
00:24:09,450 --> 00:24:13,590
very important information for you I

483
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:16,230
said you Roger and I did that I'm

484
00:24:13,589 --> 00:24:19,889
recovered at mansion the weather was so

485
00:24:16,230 --> 00:24:23,400
bad it was still night and I had an

486
00:24:19,890 --> 00:24:27,120
entire mission with night weather which

487
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:30,120
is Jul times on your under 405 anyway I

488
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:32,250
got down right to the phone called a

489
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:35,939
landline they said this is a top-secret

490
00:24:32,250 --> 00:24:37,829
mission I don't know why but that's what

491
00:24:35,940 --> 00:24:39,240
it was and it says you're not to talk

492
00:24:37,829 --> 00:24:42,569
about it we're gonna send someone down

493
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:44,309
from London to talk to indeed brief you

494
00:24:42,569 --> 00:24:49,019
tomorrow I said yes sir

495
00:24:44,309 --> 00:24:51,690
thank you and sure enough the next day a

496
00:24:49,019 --> 00:24:53,730
spook you notice focus focus there's

497
00:24:51,690 --> 00:24:55,350
some guy from cloak-and-dagger but

498
00:24:53,730 --> 00:24:57,450
what's the debrief you on something I

499
00:24:55,349 --> 00:25:00,539
don't know what the hell it was you know

500
00:24:57,450 --> 00:25:02,700
I gotta tell him so anyway he says I

501
00:25:00,539 --> 00:25:05,099
want you to know this is top secret

502
00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:06,610
mission you're not allowed to tell your

503
00:25:05,099 --> 00:25:10,209
commander or any

504
00:25:06,609 --> 00:25:12,250
one else anything about this or we will

505
00:25:10,210 --> 00:25:14,259
take your wings away you know when

506
00:25:12,250 --> 00:25:16,089
you're 25 years old and you want to

507
00:25:14,259 --> 00:25:18,700
start flying you don't want to hear that

508
00:25:16,089 --> 00:25:20,529
so I put a zipper on my mouth and that

509
00:25:18,700 --> 00:25:23,890
was the end of that I could never talk

510
00:25:20,529 --> 00:25:27,160
about it again until next Pope's people

511
00:25:23,890 --> 00:25:32,590
from the Ministry of Defense they call

512
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:38,380
it mod mo d like our DoD were exposed

513
00:25:32,589 --> 00:25:40,659
all of their data on October 21st I

514
00:25:38,380 --> 00:25:43,809
remember because I got a warning from a

515
00:25:40,660 --> 00:25:48,279
friend of mine in England that I would

516
00:25:43,808 --> 00:25:50,950
be exposed on my mission on October 21st

517
00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:54,099
sure enough the phone started ringing it

518
00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:57,640
rang for four days non-stop this is the

519
00:25:54,099 --> 00:26:01,329
London Times this is so-and-so ABC NBC

520
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:04,660
name it's this is CNN's on anyway make a

521
00:26:01,329 --> 00:26:07,210
long story short I mean now able to talk

522
00:26:04,660 --> 00:26:09,610
about my experience that I just told you

523
00:26:07,210 --> 00:26:15,548
about I know nothing about it

524
00:26:09,609 --> 00:26:17,529
I held that for my father who's a

525
00:26:15,548 --> 00:26:19,929
hundred twenty-one years old of you so

526
00:26:17,529 --> 00:26:20,710
live but I never could tell them about

527
00:26:19,929 --> 00:26:26,950
that

528
00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:29,980
anyway I'm sorry I'm just recollection

529
00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:36,910
it's such a relief to so let me know

530
00:26:29,980 --> 00:26:39,429
that I can talk about this no I'm all

531
00:26:36,910 --> 00:26:44,940
right I'm okay I just I just think my

532
00:26:39,429 --> 00:26:48,100
father anyway

533
00:26:44,940 --> 00:26:50,320
disclosure is what we need there are

534
00:26:48,099 --> 00:26:52,298
many more people like me that are

535
00:26:50,319 --> 00:26:54,339
running around with secrets they can't

536
00:26:52,298 --> 00:26:56,619
talk about because nobody will release

537
00:26:54,339 --> 00:26:58,509
it and I think we should get together

538
00:26:56,619 --> 00:27:00,428
even with the Russians because I sure

539
00:26:58,509 --> 00:27:03,009
they know a lot more about these aliens

540
00:27:00,429 --> 00:27:05,769
than we do but it's a really important

541
00:27:03,009 --> 00:27:08,769
thing for us to know about this thing so

542
00:27:05,769 --> 00:27:11,740
we can go forward they have a technology

543
00:27:08,769 --> 00:27:13,660
that we haven't even dreamt of I'm sure

544
00:27:11,740 --> 00:27:15,519
their per person system was something

545
00:27:13,660 --> 00:27:17,500
like anti-gravity or something like that

546
00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:19,000
cause they could stop on a dime thing

547
00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:21,430
and take off at Mach 10

548
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:25,180
greater it's unbelievable what they can

549
00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:27,610
do so we need to know these things so

550
00:27:25,180 --> 00:27:28,360
you know the only reason I'm here is to

551
00:27:27,609 --> 00:27:30,639
tell you

552
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:41,199
let's disclose this whenever we can't

553
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:45,670
please all right very good

554
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:48,090
now I just taught obviously we have a

555
00:27:45,670 --> 00:27:50,560
lot of the public here today I never

556
00:27:48,089 --> 00:27:52,869
enthusiastic about the issue we also

557
00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:54,849
have some very objective impartial and

558
00:27:52,869 --> 00:27:56,349
biased press here as well all right now

559
00:27:54,849 --> 00:27:58,419
do what any of the media like to ask

560
00:27:56,349 --> 00:28:11,889
either of these gentlemen a question at

561
00:27:58,420 --> 00:28:15,070
this point any of the reporters the

562
00:28:11,890 --> 00:28:19,180
essent was Sh was that the rodgero event

563
00:28:15,069 --> 00:28:21,819
was an alien craft that it was not of

564
00:28:19,180 --> 00:28:24,580
this planet that's the essence what they

565
00:28:21,819 --> 00:28:27,849
really told me was their particular each

566
00:28:24,579 --> 00:28:30,089
one of them had some particular part of

567
00:28:27,849 --> 00:28:32,889
it like a sheriff's deputy was

568
00:28:30,089 --> 00:28:36,240
controlling traffic but heard from what

569
00:28:32,890 --> 00:28:39,220
the other people what was going on the

570
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,859
family of the Undertaker told about the

571
00:28:39,220 --> 00:28:45,370
small coffins that were created for the

572
00:28:41,859 --> 00:28:47,919
alien bodies and my Air Force family

573
00:28:45,369 --> 00:28:54,489
friend said yes he had heard the same

574
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:56,470
thing from major Brazell and each one of

575
00:28:54,490 --> 00:28:58,660
them just told what their portion of the

576
00:28:56,470 --> 00:29:01,360
activity was all about so putting it all

577
00:28:58,660 --> 00:29:06,370
together the sum total was yes it was an

578
00:29:01,359 --> 00:29:09,209
alien spacecraft another question from

579
00:29:06,369 --> 00:29:09,209
the media at this time

580
00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:14,259
you happy right now obviously the these

581
00:29:12,190 --> 00:29:15,640
gentlemen are be available for further

582
00:29:14,259 --> 00:29:29,950
questions afterwards which I know is

583
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:32,590
customarily what happens no I have

584
00:29:29,950 --> 00:29:35,500
talked to all of the astronauts up

585
00:29:32,589 --> 00:29:37,750
through the Apollo program and the only

586
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:40,089
ones that have had UFO experience were

587
00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:42,849
in their Air Force careers where like

588
00:29:40,089 --> 00:29:45,309
this plane gentlemen were vectored to

589
00:29:42,849 --> 00:29:47,169
chase chase of UFO never quite made it

590
00:29:45,309 --> 00:29:49,119
couldn't quite get them in their sights

591
00:29:47,170 --> 00:29:51,009
or whatever and that was deke Slayton

592
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:53,319
and Gordon Cooper had his experience

593
00:29:51,009 --> 00:29:55,109
that's been well recited about seeing

594
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:57,339
one land at Edwards Air Force Base

595
00:29:55,109 --> 00:30:00,099
seeing the pictures of it suddenly the

596
00:29:57,339 --> 00:30:02,459
picture disappeared into the vaults of

597
00:30:00,099 --> 00:30:06,849
Washington and never returned but the

598
00:30:02,460 --> 00:30:09,039
people the military people that had UFO

599
00:30:06,849 --> 00:30:11,529
experience where Miller in their

600
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:13,960
airforce careers before the astronaut

601
00:30:11,529 --> 00:30:16,269
program and of course being a military

602
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,220
and a Navy pilot myself the stories

603
00:30:16,269 --> 00:30:20,079
among airline pilots and other pilots

604
00:30:18,220 --> 00:30:23,319
this they're just all over the places

605
00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:26,529
and we're all told shut up about it I

606
00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:28,990
never had never chased one myself but

607
00:30:26,529 --> 00:30:32,980
all my friends that did where it was all

608
00:30:28,990 --> 00:30:34,480
the same thing don't talk about let me

609
00:30:32,980 --> 00:30:35,890
point out that I lied to you earlier

610
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,019
when I said we would end no later than

611
00:30:35,890 --> 00:30:39,340
11:00 a.m. we will go past that because

612
00:30:38,019 --> 00:30:40,690
we didn't get started late and there's

613
00:30:39,339 --> 00:30:43,209
so many people here

614
00:30:40,690 --> 00:30:46,299
sue me all right now I want to make a

615
00:30:43,210 --> 00:30:48,880
point both of the gentlemen I think the

616
00:30:46,299 --> 00:30:50,019
news here today is because this this

617
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,760
gentleman was interviewed back in

618
00:30:50,019 --> 00:30:53,740
October that's not new so but the news

619
00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:56,349
today is both of these gentlemen are

620
00:30:53,740 --> 00:30:58,000
calling on the obviously since you want

621
00:30:56,349 --> 00:31:00,490
this done now they're calling on the

622
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,160
current administration to do this bomb

623
00:31:00,490 --> 00:31:04,630
administration to exercise the

624
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,880
disclosure event to bring the

625
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:09,130
information out and perhaps confirm the

626
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,980
extra-terrestrial presence but they're

627
00:31:09,130 --> 00:31:14,110
not alone in that if you do a cursory

628
00:31:11,980 --> 00:31:16,599
check on the internet you can easily

629
00:31:14,109 --> 00:31:18,069
find that the former head of the

630
00:31:16,599 --> 00:31:19,929
transition team for the current

631
00:31:18,069 --> 00:31:21,399
president the former chief of staff to

632
00:31:19,930 --> 00:31:22,900
President Clinton the former adviser to

633
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,230
President Clinton John Podesta and now

634
00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:25,210
the

635
00:31:23,230 --> 00:31:29,528
founder and the CEO of the Center for

636
00:31:25,210 --> 00:31:32,740
American Progress has in this room 2003

637
00:31:29,528 --> 00:31:34,359
and in Alissa Gorham 2002 called for

638
00:31:32,740 --> 00:31:36,159
exactly the same thing the release of

639
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:38,709
all UFO documents by the United States

640
00:31:36,159 --> 00:31:41,350
government pretty high-level person said

641
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:43,058
that but there just wasn't enough press

642
00:31:41,349 --> 00:31:44,888
follow up on that what they didn't

643
00:31:43,058 --> 00:31:48,759
really query him they did not go deeper

644
00:31:44,888 --> 00:31:51,028
perhaps they will now then in 2004 a

645
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:53,888
very fine gentleman who is currently the

646
00:31:51,028 --> 00:31:56,888
governor of New Mexico who ran for

647
00:31:53,888 --> 00:31:59,788
president was a high-level and possible

648
00:31:56,888 --> 00:32:02,500
vice presidential pick Bill Richardson

649
00:31:59,788 --> 00:32:04,658
wrote in a foreword to a book published

650
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:06,308
that year in the summer that the

651
00:32:04,659 --> 00:32:08,799
Rossville explanation put forward by the

652
00:32:06,308 --> 00:32:11,319
government didn't add up that it didn't

653
00:32:08,798 --> 00:32:14,048
make sense and that we needed to know

654
00:32:11,319 --> 00:32:16,178
what happened and he called for the

655
00:32:14,048 --> 00:32:18,730
release of all the records on Roswell

656
00:32:16,179 --> 00:32:21,639
pretty high-level person the press did

657
00:32:18,730 --> 00:32:23,528
not follow up there was a question asked

658
00:32:21,638 --> 00:32:25,089
of him by Chris Matthews after the

659
00:32:23,528 --> 00:32:29,109
philadelphia debate in the democratic

660
00:32:25,089 --> 00:32:32,349
debates last year and that was that well

661
00:32:29,109 --> 00:32:36,609
we're back and there will be others who

662
00:32:32,349 --> 00:32:38,528
will ask again will you release these

663
00:32:36,609 --> 00:32:40,209
records will you release all documents

664
00:32:38,528 --> 00:32:44,169
will in fact you get to the truth of

665
00:32:40,210 --> 00:32:48,308
this all right so if you would nope dr.

666
00:32:44,169 --> 00:32:50,788
Mitchell you would take your seats it's

667
00:32:48,308 --> 00:32:50,788
person

668
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:59,730
all right the next person who come up

669
00:32:57,058 --> 00:33:01,740
will be Nick Pope for many years worked

670
00:32:59,730 --> 00:33:03,870
for the Ministry of Defense in the

671
00:33:01,740 --> 00:33:06,329
United Kingdom he was a senior executive

672
00:33:03,869 --> 00:33:07,589
officer and for two years was

673
00:33:06,329 --> 00:33:10,859
specifically assigned to investigate

674
00:33:07,589 --> 00:33:12,928
UFOs for the Ministry of Defence I'm not

675
00:33:10,859 --> 00:33:15,028
sure that really anybody and has had

676
00:33:12,929 --> 00:33:16,230
that role here and certainly in the

677
00:33:15,028 --> 00:33:19,169
United States governments than nothing

678
00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:21,659
in that since 1968 when they said there

679
00:33:19,169 --> 00:33:23,009
was nothing to check anymore obviously

680
00:33:21,659 --> 00:33:24,419
he's done this quite more recently so

681
00:33:23,009 --> 00:33:27,599
apparently UK government seems to be a

682
00:33:24,419 --> 00:33:30,210
little more diligent about this and the

683
00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:32,009
reason he is here is because the UK

684
00:33:30,210 --> 00:33:33,630
government made a decision right after

685
00:33:32,009 --> 00:33:37,919
the French government started releasing

686
00:33:33,630 --> 00:33:40,169
all of their files to the Internet to

687
00:33:37,919 --> 00:33:41,909
start releasing the UK files and they've

688
00:33:40,169 --> 00:33:43,679
done it in a time-release fashion so

689
00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:44,730
they're releasing thousands of files and

690
00:33:43,679 --> 00:33:46,230
then they'll wait six months and

691
00:33:44,730 --> 00:33:48,390
thousands more and then each time they

692
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:50,220
do that it generates a whole new cycle

693
00:33:48,390 --> 00:33:52,169
again as various reports come out

694
00:33:50,220 --> 00:33:53,579
alluding to events that happened in the

695
00:33:52,169 --> 00:33:56,190
news articles about these events all

696
00:33:53,579 --> 00:33:58,379
over the UK generating hundreds and

697
00:33:56,190 --> 00:34:00,240
hundreds of articles this has generated

698
00:33:58,380 --> 00:34:02,429
a lot of press in the UK a lot of

699
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,630
activity there's a lot going on and this

700
00:34:02,429 --> 00:34:06,210
gentleman has been in the middle of it

701
00:34:03,630 --> 00:34:08,309
all and so we want him to brief you

702
00:34:06,210 --> 00:34:10,820
about that and so Nick will you come to

703
00:34:08,309 --> 00:34:10,820
the mic please

704
00:34:14,789 --> 00:34:22,199
thank you good morning I worked for the

705
00:34:18,579 --> 00:34:27,639
Ministry of Defence for 21 years and

706
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:30,069
between 1991 and 1994 I was actually the

707
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:34,990
person responsible for investigating UFO

708
00:34:30,070 --> 00:34:37,599
sightings 95% of them turned out after

709
00:34:34,989 --> 00:34:39,908
investigation to be misidentifications

710
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:43,690
of fairly ordinary objects and phenomena

711
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:45,550
but there were some interesting cases in

712
00:34:43,690 --> 00:34:48,039
there including sightings by police

713
00:34:45,550 --> 00:34:51,839
officers pilots both commercial and

714
00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:54,969
military UFO sightings tracked on radar

715
00:34:51,838 --> 00:34:57,699
as Steve said the British government is

716
00:34:54,969 --> 00:34:59,949
in the process of releasing its entire

717
00:34:57,699 --> 00:35:01,899
archive of UFO FILES

718
00:34:59,949 --> 00:35:04,299
and one can now go to the Ministry of

719
00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:07,030
Defence website the National Archives

720
00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:11,380
website and see tens of thousands of

721
00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:15,099
pages of documentation most of the fight

722
00:35:11,380 --> 00:35:18,250
the files are sighting reports but there

723
00:35:15,099 --> 00:35:21,160
are also policy papers including some

724
00:35:18,250 --> 00:35:24,400
classified up to the level secret UK is

725
00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:26,858
only now Declassified of course there

726
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:31,030
have been three batches of files

727
00:35:26,858 --> 00:35:35,319
released to date and it was the last

728
00:35:31,030 --> 00:35:37,480
batch of files that died me the last but

729
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:41,940
one batch of files that included the

730
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:46,659
report of major Milton Torres's sighting

731
00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:48,490
UFO sightings in Britain continued there

732
00:35:46,659 --> 00:35:51,039
were twice as many reported to the

733
00:35:48,489 --> 00:35:55,269
Ministry of Defence in 2008 as opposed

734
00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:58,599
to 2007 cases included an interesting

735
00:35:55,269 --> 00:36:00,940
one on 2nd of May last year where a

736
00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:03,789
police helicopter had to take evasive

737
00:36:00,940 --> 00:36:06,849
action to avoid what the pilot described

738
00:36:03,789 --> 00:36:10,179
as a UFO and again this report can be

739
00:36:06,849 --> 00:36:14,109
read on the website of the air procs

740
00:36:10,179 --> 00:36:16,659
board err proxies air proximity and it's

741
00:36:14,108 --> 00:36:18,880
jointly sponsored by the Ministry of

742
00:36:16,659 --> 00:36:23,219
Defence and the Civil Aviation Authority

743
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:26,289
which is the UK equivalent of your FAA

744
00:36:23,219 --> 00:36:28,129
bottom line from a personal point of

745
00:36:26,289 --> 00:36:31,279
view having worked on on

746
00:36:28,130 --> 00:36:35,119
files for three years I don't know what

747
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:38,750
UFOs are but when one looks at cases

748
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:40,789
such as that of major Torres and many

749
00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:43,969
others because there have been others

750
00:36:40,789 --> 00:36:45,739
when one looks at the police helicopter

751
00:36:43,969 --> 00:36:48,019
and the pilot having to take evasive

752
00:36:45,739 --> 00:36:49,519
action it's perfectly clear to me and

753
00:36:48,019 --> 00:36:51,980
was clear to a number of my other

754
00:36:49,519 --> 00:36:55,750
colleagues that whatever the true nature

755
00:36:51,980 --> 00:36:59,300
of the UFO phenomenon it raises

756
00:36:55,750 --> 00:37:02,449
important Defense national security and

757
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:04,390
air safety issues and therefore needs to

758
00:37:02,449 --> 00:37:06,799
be something taken seriously and

759
00:37:04,389 --> 00:37:14,179
investigated in a proper scientific

760
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:17,150
manner thank you at this time are there

761
00:37:14,179 --> 00:37:19,909
any any questions directed for Nick from

762
00:37:17,150 --> 00:37:21,410
the media do we have a question okay he

763
00:37:19,909 --> 00:37:26,889
will be available afterwards I do have a

764
00:37:21,409 --> 00:37:26,889
question myself Nick oh yes right there

765
00:37:34,210 --> 00:37:40,369
I'm not aware of that but one possible

766
00:37:38,420 --> 00:37:43,519
example we had a very convincing

767
00:37:40,369 --> 00:37:45,259
photograph sent to us which was actually

768
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:47,509
on my office wall for a number of years

769
00:37:45,260 --> 00:37:49,400
and I remember going to discuss that

770
00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:52,390
with my opposite number in the Defense

771
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:55,130
Intelligence staff and whilst there was

772
00:37:52,389 --> 00:37:58,309
nothing to work with except the image

773
00:37:55,130 --> 00:38:01,190
obviously by looking by showing that

774
00:37:58,309 --> 00:38:03,980
image to the technical specialists at

775
00:38:01,190 --> 00:38:06,200
mot who who were responsible for

776
00:38:03,980 --> 00:38:08,240
photographic interpretation there was a

777
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:10,789
hope that we would at least be able to

778
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:13,039
find out something about the

779
00:38:10,789 --> 00:38:15,500
aerodynamics and possibly the propulsion

780
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:30,289
system of whatever this thing was and we

781
00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:32,510
didn't know I can't recall any other

782
00:38:30,289 --> 00:38:34,369
shoot-down orders of course there have

783
00:38:32,510 --> 00:38:40,220
been a couple of other very famous cases

784
00:38:34,369 --> 00:38:42,259
from other countries Iran in 1976 Peru

785
00:38:40,219 --> 00:38:44,989
in in 19

786
00:38:42,260 --> 00:38:48,590
there have certainly been cases where

787
00:38:44,989 --> 00:38:52,159
commercial airline pilots have had very

788
00:38:48,590 --> 00:38:55,579
near misses with UFOs one of the reports

789
00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:59,210
in in the second batch of material

790
00:38:55,579 --> 00:39:02,619
involved an aircraft with 57 passengers

791
00:38:59,210 --> 00:39:05,960
on board flying into London and

792
00:39:02,619 --> 00:39:09,319
something flashed across at a height of

793
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:11,570
about 22,000 feet and the pilot simply

794
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,280
had time to say look out look out so

795
00:39:11,570 --> 00:39:15,440
that there are a number of near misses

796
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:18,410
involving military aircraft and

797
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,900
commercial pilots I'm not aware of any

798
00:39:18,409 --> 00:39:22,909
other shoot-down orders in the UK but

799
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:24,800
there may well have been them there may

800
00:39:22,909 --> 00:39:38,119
have been some files that that I missed

801
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:41,269
during my my tour of duty no I left the

802
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:43,489
Ministry of Defence I resigned in 2006

803
00:39:41,269 --> 00:39:46,190
so I'm speaking entirely in a personal

804
00:39:43,489 --> 00:39:49,189
capacity that said of course I'm drawing

805
00:39:46,190 --> 00:40:03,889
on declassified material from the mo DS

806
00:39:49,190 --> 00:40:07,400
archives I do have a counterpart who's

807
00:40:03,889 --> 00:40:09,289
still there but any contact with the

808
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:12,130
media would need to be through the mo DS

809
00:40:09,289 --> 00:40:12,130
press office

810
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:29,549
no we didn't one of the first things

811
00:40:26,579 --> 00:40:31,560
that I did was trying to establish lines

812
00:40:29,550 --> 00:40:34,410
of communication with an opposite number

813
00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:37,440
in in the US but I was told after

814
00:40:34,409 --> 00:40:40,920
inquiries through the embassy that there

815
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,510
was no official UFO project in in the US

816
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,700
following the closure of Project Blue

817
00:40:42,510 --> 00:40:47,849
Book we did have one or two indications

818
00:40:44,699 --> 00:40:50,399
that notwithstanding the fact that there

819
00:40:47,849 --> 00:40:53,280
wasn't a formally constituted project

820
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:55,619
that that people were at some level

821
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:58,170
paying attention to this issue but that

822
00:40:55,619 --> 00:41:00,930
may have been on a case-by-case basis

823
00:40:58,170 --> 00:41:03,769
but of course I would find it personally

824
00:41:00,929 --> 00:41:05,789
very surprising particularly 9/11 if

825
00:41:03,769 --> 00:41:07,559
somebody somewhere in the US

826
00:41:05,789 --> 00:41:09,568
administration wasn't looking at the

827
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:12,869
more interesting cases that I I know you

828
00:41:09,568 --> 00:41:30,480
do have involving pilot sightings radar

829
00:41:12,869 --> 00:41:32,480
returns etc I think that my combination

830
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:35,190
of security clearance and need-to-know

831
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:38,789
during that time would have given me

832
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:43,079
access had there been such a thing and I

833
00:41:38,789 --> 00:41:44,940
think even if in my dealings with the

834
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:47,579
Defense Intelligence staff if there had

835
00:41:44,940 --> 00:41:50,338
been something like that I like to think

836
00:41:47,579 --> 00:41:52,859
that I would have got some hint but I I

837
00:41:50,338 --> 00:41:54,838
got absolutely no hint of course I can't

838
00:41:52,858 --> 00:41:57,960
I can't prove a negative but as far as

839
00:41:54,838 --> 00:42:01,170
I'm concerned my colleagues and I in the

840
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:03,119
British government were not aware of the

841
00:42:01,170 --> 00:42:04,800
nature of the UFO phenomenon we found it

842
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:10,769
interesting but the bottom line was we

843
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:12,539
didn't know what it was well classified

844
00:42:10,769 --> 00:42:15,030
it's not some of the more highly

845
00:42:12,539 --> 00:42:18,449
classified documents on UFOs of course

846
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:19,670
relate not not to to extraterrestrial

847
00:42:18,449 --> 00:42:22,230
spacecraft but to for example

848
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:24,869
information about the capability of

849
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:29,369
military radar systems information that

850
00:42:24,869 --> 00:42:32,960
would if released show methods and

851
00:42:29,369 --> 00:42:32,960
sources of gathering intelligence

852
00:42:33,068 --> 00:42:41,108
about the boys cases the Bentwaters case

853
00:42:38,768 --> 00:42:45,008
from December 1980 yes I mean that's

854
00:42:41,108 --> 00:42:48,400
that's Britain's most compelling UFO

855
00:42:45,009 --> 00:42:50,858
incident the case file on that was the

856
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:54,219
subject of a targeted foi in reliefs

857
00:42:50,858 --> 00:42:56,949
actually back in 2001 so the release of

858
00:42:54,219 --> 00:42:59,380
that file which is in now in the public

859
00:42:56,949 --> 00:43:01,539
domain actually predates the policy

860
00:42:59,380 --> 00:43:08,199
decision to open the archive in in the

861
00:43:01,539 --> 00:43:11,160
wider sense after four additional

862
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:11,159
questions thank you very much

863
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:21,249
it's it's clear that the pilot sightings

864
00:43:19,509 --> 00:43:25,289
are extremely important and I want to

865
00:43:21,248 --> 00:43:27,418
point out that Richard Haines was

866
00:43:25,289 --> 00:43:30,160
instrumental for many years in compiling

867
00:43:27,418 --> 00:43:32,588
the largest database of pilot sightings

868
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:35,018
in the world at one point was at 3,500

869
00:43:32,588 --> 00:43:36,578
Lord knows where it is now he he worked

870
00:43:35,018 --> 00:43:37,088
for NASA for many years I believe he's

871
00:43:36,579 --> 00:43:39,400
retired

872
00:43:37,088 --> 00:43:40,929
I believe that database is now in the

873
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,239
hands of night car it's a group that

874
00:43:40,929 --> 00:43:45,429
deals with the issue of this phenomena

875
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:48,400
and aerial safety very professional

876
00:43:45,429 --> 00:43:51,519
operation how many they have now I do

877
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:53,229
not know but I know that because dr.

878
00:43:51,518 --> 00:43:55,958
Haines was doing that many many many

879
00:43:53,228 --> 00:43:59,348
pilots who could not speak anywhere else

880
00:43:55,958 --> 00:44:00,908
would come and give them the report and

881
00:43:59,349 --> 00:44:02,469
they might very well be an anonymous in

882
00:44:00,909 --> 00:44:04,599
that but but they had a place to go and

883
00:44:02,469 --> 00:44:07,329
talk I don't think that dr. Torres knew

884
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:10,390
that and so that database is probably

885
00:44:07,329 --> 00:44:14,439
and I feel very likely the single most

886
00:44:10,389 --> 00:44:15,908
profound collection of data confirming

887
00:44:14,438 --> 00:44:17,768
the the the presence of

888
00:44:15,909 --> 00:44:20,949
extraterrestrials because these reports

889
00:44:17,768 --> 00:44:23,828
simply do not describe human-based craft

890
00:44:20,949 --> 00:44:26,139
in the collective but the press has been

891
00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:27,849
very reluctant to really go and look at

892
00:44:26,139 --> 00:44:29,618
that but it's there it's been there for

893
00:44:27,849 --> 00:44:31,028
many years you may want to do that all

894
00:44:29,619 --> 00:44:33,219
right now I'm going to bring to the

895
00:44:31,028 --> 00:44:36,518
stand a gentleman who is again one of

896
00:44:33,219 --> 00:44:37,568
the speakers at the X conference who has

897
00:44:36,518 --> 00:44:41,068
a new book coming out and wants to

898
00:44:37,568 --> 00:44:41,068
mention that Richard Dolan

899
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,580
Thank You Steven and good morning my

900
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:52,699
name is Richard dole and I am the author

901
00:44:49,579 --> 00:44:55,610
of a study entitled UFOs in the national

902
00:44:52,699 --> 00:44:58,399
security state I'm happy to announce the

903
00:44:55,610 --> 00:45:00,680
publication of the second volume of this

904
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,510
three-volume history which covers the

905
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:05,869
UFO phenomenon from the Second World War

906
00:45:02,510 --> 00:45:08,870
to the present day this new study

907
00:45:05,869 --> 00:45:11,269
subtitled the cover-up exposed is due

908
00:45:08,869 --> 00:45:15,400
for release in the late spring of 2009

909
00:45:11,269 --> 00:45:18,559
it covers the years 1973 to 1991 a

910
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:20,480
period of time spanning from the Nixon

911
00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:22,190
administration through the collapse of

912
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:25,940
the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold

913
00:45:22,190 --> 00:45:28,340
War using archival sources from the

914
00:45:25,940 --> 00:45:29,990
United States and Canadian National

915
00:45:28,340 --> 00:45:32,180
Archives professional journals and

916
00:45:29,989 --> 00:45:34,969
direct investigations and personal

917
00:45:32,179 --> 00:45:36,769
interviews that I've conducted the 600

918
00:45:34,969 --> 00:45:40,219
page study provides a comprehensive

919
00:45:36,769 --> 00:45:43,179
analysis of the critical UFO encounters

920
00:45:40,219 --> 00:45:45,829
by military and civilians worldwide

921
00:45:43,179 --> 00:45:48,639
these encounters all thoroughly

922
00:45:45,829 --> 00:45:51,440
documented and equally baffling

923
00:45:48,639 --> 00:45:55,250
repeatedly demonstrate that the UFO

924
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:57,470
phenomenon has been a global one and the

925
00:45:55,250 --> 00:45:59,119
result of highly advanced technology

926
00:45:57,469 --> 00:46:02,409
that has received no official

927
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:05,690
recognition in many of these cases

928
00:46:02,409 --> 00:46:08,000
involved the violation of sensitive US

929
00:46:05,690 --> 00:46:10,570
military airspace as well as that of

930
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:13,550
other nations some of these include the

931
00:46:10,570 --> 00:46:17,600
unexplained intrusions over American and

932
00:46:13,550 --> 00:46:20,390
Canadian air bases in late 1975 the

933
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:24,230
spectacular interception attempts of a

934
00:46:20,389 --> 00:46:26,960
UFO over Tehran in Iran in 1976 an event

935
00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:29,809
tracked by American defense satellites

936
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:32,240
incidentally the landing of an unknown

937
00:46:29,809 --> 00:46:34,730
object near two American operated air

938
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:37,879
bases in Britain in 1980 the Bentwaters

939
00:46:34,730 --> 00:46:40,610
case just referred to the appearance of

940
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:44,720
large boomerang shaped craft north of

941
00:46:40,610 --> 00:46:46,820
New York City during the 1980s military

942
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:50,329
records describing attempts to intercept

943
00:46:46,820 --> 00:46:54,019
UFOs by the nations of Europe South

944
00:46:50,329 --> 00:46:57,009
America Africa Australia and Asia

945
00:46:54,019 --> 00:46:59,659
the appearance of triangular craft

946
00:46:57,010 --> 00:47:02,780
throughout the United States Europe and

947
00:46:59,659 --> 00:47:05,599
the Soviet Union including the attempted

948
00:47:02,780 --> 00:47:10,190
interception of a triangular aircraft by

949
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:12,860
Belgian f-16s in 1990 and numerous

950
00:47:10,190 --> 00:47:16,610
sightings of anomalous objects in Earth

951
00:47:12,860 --> 00:47:17,990
orbit by Soviet and American astronauts

952
00:47:16,610 --> 00:47:21,530
in particular those in the shuttle

953
00:47:17,989 --> 00:47:24,799
program this study also presents an

954
00:47:21,530 --> 00:47:26,990
analysis of UFO secrecy itself throwing

955
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:30,200
light on areas that have long operated

956
00:47:26,989 --> 00:47:31,699
in darkness I have tried to analyze the

957
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:34,969
structure of power behind the scenes

958
00:47:31,699 --> 00:47:36,500
I've tried to describe black-budget and

959
00:47:34,969 --> 00:47:39,319
special access programs and how they

960
00:47:36,500 --> 00:47:41,150
factor into this studying the

961
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:44,900
relationship of military versus

962
00:47:41,150 --> 00:47:47,750
corporate secrecy of the UFO phenomenon

963
00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:49,849
and I have attempted to provide a

964
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:52,190
geopolitical analysis throughout to

965
00:47:49,849 --> 00:47:56,529
bring the topic of UFO secrecy into the

966
00:47:52,190 --> 00:48:02,329
main stream of historical understanding

967
00:47:56,530 --> 00:48:04,040
finally I am happy to mention that this

968
00:48:02,329 --> 00:48:06,380
study provides a first-ever

969
00:48:04,039 --> 00:48:09,710
analysis of the history of UFO research

970
00:48:06,380 --> 00:48:13,000
itself I've recreated the discussions

971
00:48:09,710 --> 00:48:15,619
and debates concerning the topics that

972
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:18,079
polarized UFO research during those

973
00:48:15,619 --> 00:48:20,630
years such as alien abductions animal

974
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:24,019
mutilations intelligence community

975
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:27,619
infiltration into UFO research the

976
00:48:24,019 --> 00:48:30,949
controversial mj-12 documents the Gulf

977
00:48:27,619 --> 00:48:33,410
Breeze controversy claims about reverse

978
00:48:30,949 --> 00:48:37,069
engineering of alien technology crop

979
00:48:33,409 --> 00:48:39,529
circles and much more I've also studied

980
00:48:37,070 --> 00:48:43,580
the effect of new technologies such as

981
00:48:39,530 --> 00:48:45,140
the internet on UFO research I've

982
00:48:43,579 --> 00:48:46,969
attempted to provide a thorough and

983
00:48:45,139 --> 00:48:50,420
complete history of the phenomenon the

984
00:48:46,969 --> 00:48:52,750
secrecy and the response by researchers

985
00:48:50,420 --> 00:48:55,909
who sought to understand this mystery

986
00:48:52,750 --> 00:48:57,829
behind it all there's a backdrop of a

987
00:48:55,909 --> 00:49:01,279
world and technological economic and

988
00:48:57,829 --> 00:49:02,960
political transformation UFOs in the

989
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:06,410
national security state the cover-up

990
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,309
exposed is my attempt to take the reader

991
00:49:06,409 --> 00:49:09,259
through a

992
00:49:07,309 --> 00:49:12,110
fascinating turning point in the history

993
00:49:09,260 --> 00:49:14,270
of the UFO phenomenon as well as the

994
00:49:12,110 --> 00:49:17,870
history of the modern world the book is

995
00:49:14,269 --> 00:49:18,889
due for publication in June 2009 I would

996
00:49:17,869 --> 00:49:21,429
encourage you to visit my website

997
00:49:18,889 --> 00:49:23,509
keyhole publishing dot-com for

998
00:49:21,429 --> 00:49:32,000
announcements of publication and

999
00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:34,010
availability thank you very much now I

1000
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,320
wish to bring forward another speaker

1001
00:49:34,010 --> 00:49:38,750
from the X conference he is an XO

1002
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:41,180
political activist and a political

1003
00:49:38,750 --> 00:49:43,159
activist before that going back many

1004
00:49:41,179 --> 00:49:46,549
many years he's been involved in

1005
00:49:43,159 --> 00:49:49,869
multiple projects he has a Juris Doctor

1006
00:49:46,550 --> 00:49:52,610
from Yale currently lives in Canada and

1007
00:49:49,869 --> 00:49:54,170
he has a another initiative he's working

1008
00:49:52,610 --> 00:49:56,240
on with a number of individuals and he

1009
00:49:54,170 --> 00:49:57,260
wants to announce the developments there

1010
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:04,399
would you come forward

1011
00:49:57,260 --> 00:50:05,720
alfred weber and the press release is on

1012
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:12,470
this are going to be up here as well you

1013
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:15,349
can come and get it later yesterday

1014
00:50:12,469 --> 00:50:17,299
thank you very much I'm Alfred Lambert

1015
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:20,480
Webber of the Institute for cooperation

1016
00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:25,310
in space and I'm making this statement

1017
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:28,429
on behalf of a citizen's initiative led

1018
00:50:25,309 --> 00:50:31,460
by ambassador John McDonald of the

1019
00:50:28,429 --> 00:50:35,869
Institute for multitrack diplomacy who's

1020
00:50:31,460 --> 00:50:37,849
who's here with us as well as dr.

1021
00:50:35,869 --> 00:50:41,389
Michael salla of the Exopolitics

1022
00:50:37,849 --> 00:50:43,789
Institute who's with us and Victor V

1023
00:50:41,389 --> 00:50:49,279
Gianni of Exopolitics Toronto who's

1024
00:50:43,789 --> 00:50:53,110
present in the room also and the

1025
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:58,400
headline here is UN General Assembly

1026
00:50:53,110 --> 00:50:59,990
president and Secretariat official ready

1027
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:04,039
for action on the extra-terrestrial

1028
00:50:59,989 --> 00:51:07,729
presence what is needed is one

1029
00:51:04,039 --> 00:51:11,420
sponsoring UN member nation one out of

1030
00:51:07,730 --> 00:51:14,900
192 current members of the United

1031
00:51:11,420 --> 00:51:17,059
Nations General Assembly a senior

1032
00:51:14,900 --> 00:51:19,720
official in the office of the UN General

1033
00:51:17,059 --> 00:51:23,289
Assembly President began the Scott

1034
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:27,489
Rockman of nicaragua president Brockman

1035
00:51:23,289 --> 00:51:30,789
was the Sandinista foreign minister of

1036
00:51:27,489 --> 00:51:33,098
nicaragua from 1979 to 1990 and is

1037
00:51:30,789 --> 00:51:35,469
currently the president of the UN

1038
00:51:33,099 --> 00:51:39,309
General Assembly his chief of cabinet

1039
00:51:35,469 --> 00:51:40,779
dr. Norman Miranda of Nicaragua with

1040
00:51:39,309 --> 00:51:42,849
whom I had the pleasure of speaking for

1041
00:51:40,780 --> 00:51:44,980
many hours has confirmed two

1042
00:51:42,849 --> 00:51:47,349
representatives of a citizen's

1043
00:51:44,980 --> 00:51:49,929
initiative that the president UN General

1044
00:51:47,349 --> 00:51:51,970
Assembly president's office is ready to

1045
00:51:49,929 --> 00:51:55,629
move forward in the General Assembly on

1046
00:51:51,969 --> 00:51:59,289
a resolution calling for implementation

1047
00:51:55,630 --> 00:52:04,420
of UN General Assembly decision 33 for

1048
00:51:59,289 --> 00:52:07,329
26 of 1978 this year marks the 30th

1049
00:52:04,420 --> 00:52:10,300
anniversary of the adoption of UN

1050
00:52:07,329 --> 00:52:14,409
General Assembly decision 33 for 26

1051
00:52:10,300 --> 00:52:17,710
which calls for quote and encoding from

1052
00:52:14,409 --> 00:52:20,319
the decision the establishment of an

1053
00:52:17,710 --> 00:52:23,260
agency or Department of the United

1054
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:25,559
Nations for undertaking coordinating and

1055
00:52:23,260 --> 00:52:28,810
disseminating the results of research

1056
00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:32,130
into unidentified flying objects UFOs

1057
00:52:28,809 --> 00:52:36,159
and related phenomena

1058
00:52:32,130 --> 00:52:39,849
likewise Juan Carlos Brandt the UN

1059
00:52:36,159 --> 00:52:42,279
Secretariat's UN chief of advocacy and

1060
00:52:39,849 --> 00:52:45,150
special events who coordinated the

1061
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:48,550
recent United Nations panel on

1062
00:52:45,150 --> 00:52:50,740
Battlestar Galactica you may recall that

1063
00:52:48,550 --> 00:52:55,060
that was in the news has stated publicly

1064
00:52:50,739 --> 00:52:56,439
quote if there is one UN member state

1065
00:52:55,059 --> 00:52:58,989
that would ask for a meeting on

1066
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:00,429
extraterrestrials it would take place

1067
00:52:58,989 --> 00:53:03,368
end of quote

1068
00:53:00,429 --> 00:53:06,989
what is missing so far is a UN member

1069
00:53:03,369 --> 00:53:10,809
nation to introduce the implementing

1070
00:53:06,989 --> 00:53:13,598
resolution implementing the decision

1071
00:53:10,809 --> 00:53:16,259
taken 30 years ago to establish a UN

1072
00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:20,440
agency on extraterrestrial issues

1073
00:53:16,260 --> 00:53:22,990
Grenada and its forward-looking Prime

1074
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:26,200
Minister Sir Eric gairy was instrumental

1075
00:53:22,989 --> 00:53:31,389
in sponsoring and ensuring the passage

1076
00:53:26,199 --> 00:53:32,500
of the 1978 decision 33 for 26 now in

1077
00:53:31,389 --> 00:53:34,449
recent year

1078
00:53:32,500 --> 00:53:37,119
UN member nations have begun to

1079
00:53:34,449 --> 00:53:39,939
unofficially release as has been stated

1080
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:42,450
here some of the secret files related to

1081
00:53:39,940 --> 00:53:44,650
unidentified flying objects and

1082
00:53:42,449 --> 00:53:48,879
extraterrestrial civilizations

1083
00:53:44,650 --> 00:53:54,869
these include Mexico in 2004 Brazil in

1084
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:59,800
2005 Canada from 2005 to 2007 France in

1085
00:53:54,869 --> 00:54:04,480
2007 the UK Ministry of Defence 2007 to

1086
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:07,470
2009 and Denmark in 2009 so we are

1087
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:11,710
officially putting forward a call today

1088
00:54:07,469 --> 00:54:15,269
for one or more of the 192 UN member

1089
00:54:11,710 --> 00:54:18,130
nations to come forward and to take up

1090
00:54:15,269 --> 00:54:20,829
the commitment of the UN General

1091
00:54:18,130 --> 00:54:23,470
Assembly president and senior officials

1092
00:54:20,829 --> 00:54:30,940
in the Secretariat it's to Shepherd

1093
00:54:23,469 --> 00:54:32,739
through the resolution thank you and of

1094
00:54:30,940 --> 00:54:34,539
course Alfred be available afterwards

1095
00:54:32,739 --> 00:54:36,759
for any questions the press release is

1096
00:54:34,539 --> 00:54:38,800
up here all right before we move to the

1097
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:41,050
last segment of this press conference I

1098
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:46,000
want to bring somebody forward Cheryl

1099
00:54:41,050 --> 00:54:48,670
would you please come up this press

1100
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,440
conference is held after every X

1101
00:54:48,670 --> 00:54:53,289
conference which is we've had our fifth

1102
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:57,309
one and I think it's important I wanted

1103
00:54:53,289 --> 00:54:59,588
to knowledge somebody the host of every

1104
00:54:57,309 --> 00:55:01,869
one of the X conferences is been miss

1105
00:54:59,588 --> 00:55:04,440
Cheryl Jones and the reason I brought

1106
00:55:01,869 --> 00:55:07,119
her up here is that Miss Jones

1107
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:11,079
well it's the television journalist and

1108
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:16,269
former CNN news anchor one of the early

1109
00:55:11,079 --> 00:55:18,250
pioneers of women news anchors and she

1110
00:55:16,269 --> 00:55:21,099
became interested and knowledgeable

1111
00:55:18,250 --> 00:55:25,480
about the issue and it hadn't and we had

1112
00:55:21,099 --> 00:55:27,970
the courage to look into it and and and

1113
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:30,909
and measure it and as a result became

1114
00:55:27,969 --> 00:55:33,699
involved and has lent her prestige and

1115
00:55:30,909 --> 00:55:37,118
her background to us for five years and

1116
00:55:33,699 --> 00:55:41,009
I hope will continue to do so but I

1117
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:41,010
wanted you to know about Cheryl yet

1118
00:55:41,489 --> 00:55:46,709
thank you so much

1119
00:55:44,070 --> 00:55:48,450
for being here this morning and I just

1120
00:55:46,710 --> 00:55:50,789
want to say and reiterate something that

1121
00:55:48,449 --> 00:55:55,319
you have already heard this morning and

1122
00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:57,570
that is that this story is an absolutely

1123
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,670
the most important story of our time and

1124
00:55:57,570 --> 00:56:00,930
we're it not for the courage of the

1125
00:55:59,670 --> 00:56:04,170
people that you've heard from this

1126
00:56:00,929 --> 00:56:09,509
morning we wouldn't be here at this

1127
00:56:04,170 --> 00:56:15,170
stage we've been through times of the

1128
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:18,090
seeing the story being ignored ridiculed

1129
00:56:15,170 --> 00:56:19,980
discredited the experiences that the

1130
00:56:18,090 --> 00:56:22,170
people that you've heard from have been

1131
00:56:19,980 --> 00:56:24,300
unbelievable you've just heard a bit of

1132
00:56:22,170 --> 00:56:27,619
it this morning but the courage the

1133
00:56:24,300 --> 00:56:30,330
people that you've you've heard speak

1134
00:56:27,619 --> 00:56:35,609
what brings them to this day those

1135
00:56:30,329 --> 00:56:37,409
stories are just unbelievable and we can

1136
00:56:35,610 --> 00:56:40,590
only imagine not having walked on the

1137
00:56:37,409 --> 00:56:43,440
moon myself and not having been through

1138
00:56:40,590 --> 00:56:46,829
the experiences of the people you've

1139
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:50,970
heard from major Torrez I can't even

1140
00:56:46,829 --> 00:56:53,539
begin to even comprehend what what they

1141
00:56:50,969 --> 00:56:55,649
must have must have experienced but

1142
00:56:53,539 --> 00:56:59,340
having been in the television news

1143
00:56:55,650 --> 00:57:01,110
business myself I I think I know a

1144
00:56:59,340 --> 00:57:03,120
little bit about a good story and I know

1145
00:57:01,110 --> 00:57:05,519
from your presence here this morning you

1146
00:57:03,119 --> 00:57:08,730
do as well and let's hope from this day

1147
00:57:05,519 --> 00:57:10,530
forward we can put the way the story's

1148
00:57:08,730 --> 00:57:13,190
been treated in the past behind us

1149
00:57:10,530 --> 00:57:17,100
give it the proper respect and

1150
00:57:13,190 --> 00:57:21,269
importance that it deserves and heed

1151
00:57:17,099 --> 00:57:25,559
some of the advice of dr. Edgar Mitchell

1152
00:57:21,269 --> 00:57:29,329
and really look at it seriously study

1153
00:57:25,559 --> 00:57:32,279
the material and listen to what's being

1154
00:57:29,329 --> 00:57:34,940
made available to you and again thank

1155
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,940
you this morning

1156
00:57:38,670 --> 00:57:45,220
very quick is Jeffrey Jenkins here

1157
00:57:41,460 --> 00:57:49,240
Jeffrey are you here okay

1158
00:57:45,219 --> 00:57:51,519
just want to remind Alfred and dr.

1159
00:57:49,239 --> 00:57:52,868
Alexander that hopefully he will be here

1160
00:57:51,519 --> 00:57:55,900
and you'll be departing at 12:00 for the

1161
00:57:52,869 --> 00:57:58,750
airport I want to mention now before we

1162
00:57:55,900 --> 00:58:00,190
bring up the last person that one of the

1163
00:57:58,750 --> 00:58:06,250
things that paradigm Research Group does

1164
00:58:00,190 --> 00:58:07,869
is it publishes a news media archive or

1165
00:58:06,250 --> 00:58:09,880
news media watch of the mainstream

1166
00:58:07,869 --> 00:58:12,760
coverage of this issue and at the

1167
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:14,410
paradigm research group org website you

1168
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,700
can if you can plow through the vast

1169
00:58:14,409 --> 00:58:18,039
amount of material there you will find

1170
00:58:15,699 --> 00:58:22,329
the news media archive link and you will

1171
00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:23,759
go there currently we have 2800 I've got

1172
00:58:22,329 --> 00:58:26,259
the twenty three thirty four hundred

1173
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,820
mainstream non-paranormal non

1174
00:58:26,260 --> 00:58:30,430
alternative press English language

1175
00:58:27,820 --> 00:58:32,650
articles from around the world up there

1176
00:58:30,429 --> 00:58:37,469
going back to 1947 but what's notable is

1177
00:58:32,650 --> 00:58:40,930
that starting in nineteen six something

1178
00:58:37,469 --> 00:58:43,209
started 2006 I'm sorry something started

1179
00:58:40,929 --> 00:58:44,559
something happened and the number of

1180
00:58:43,210 --> 00:58:47,139
articles we logged in was about four

1181
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:50,469
hundred seventy-six then using the same

1182
00:58:47,139 --> 00:58:55,179
resources the next year they jumped to I

1183
00:58:50,469 --> 00:58:58,358
think I was 176 to 476 and then 2008 to

1184
00:58:55,179 --> 00:59:01,569
1200 and in 2009 we're on a pace for

1185
00:58:58,358 --> 00:59:04,150
2000 articles on a subject I've read

1186
00:59:01,570 --> 00:59:06,369
them all and approximately one in a

1187
00:59:04,150 --> 00:59:09,160
hundred is what I would call a hit piece

1188
00:59:06,369 --> 00:59:10,840
or a ridicule piece not that anything

1189
00:59:09,159 --> 00:59:13,449
can't be hit or ridicule of course it

1190
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:15,090
can but one in a hundred is quite

1191
00:59:13,449 --> 00:59:17,679
extraordinary I can assure that

1192
00:59:15,090 --> 00:59:21,720
something has happened at the editorial

1193
00:59:17,679 --> 00:59:24,819
offices of newspapers and television

1194
00:59:21,719 --> 00:59:26,409
they have made decisions that yes we

1195
00:59:24,820 --> 00:59:27,730
will go here we will look at this we

1196
00:59:26,409 --> 00:59:29,649
will interview we will talk we will

1197
00:59:27,730 --> 00:59:32,710
cover everything books conferences

1198
00:59:29,650 --> 00:59:35,108
reports other developments it's

1199
00:59:32,710 --> 00:59:37,570
extremely important and very pleased to

1200
00:59:35,108 --> 00:59:39,849
see the great Fourth Estate coming

1201
00:59:37,570 --> 00:59:41,170
around and getting into this and doing

1202
00:59:39,849 --> 00:59:44,108
their job here I think they will be very

1203
00:59:41,170 --> 00:59:49,119
richly rewarded for doing that now our

1204
00:59:44,108 --> 00:59:51,309
last presenter is in the nuts and bolts

1205
00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:53,820
right you've had

1206
00:59:51,309 --> 00:59:57,759
is a dance stuff coming up folks you had

1207
00:59:53,820 --> 01:00:00,910
very basic but incredibly implicit of

1208
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:03,940
information once you get into this

1209
01:00:00,909 --> 01:00:06,309
though you there is so much and one of

1210
01:00:03,940 --> 01:00:09,909
the areas is of course evidence tangible

1211
01:00:06,309 --> 01:00:12,070
evidence this gentleman dr. Roger Leir

1212
01:00:09,909 --> 01:00:17,250
is the leading researcher in the world

1213
01:00:12,070 --> 01:00:20,830
on the removal of alleged implants or

1214
01:00:17,250 --> 01:00:23,949
artifacts from individuals who believe

1215
01:00:20,829 --> 01:00:27,190
they have had contact the number of

1216
01:00:23,949 --> 01:00:30,789
reports of contact direct including

1217
01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:32,650
abductions are in the tens and tens of

1218
01:00:30,789 --> 01:00:34,029
thousands they are filling the filing

1219
01:00:32,650 --> 01:00:37,180
cabinets of researchers all over the

1220
01:00:34,030 --> 01:00:39,700
world and I that numbers could even be

1221
01:00:37,179 --> 01:00:41,109
at a hundred thousand many many hundreds

1222
01:00:39,699 --> 01:00:43,239
of these reports have been extensively

1223
01:00:41,110 --> 01:00:45,910
written up many thousands have been

1224
01:00:43,239 --> 01:00:47,979
investigated the material was out there

1225
01:00:45,909 --> 01:00:50,379
review at your leisure but one of the

1226
01:00:47,980 --> 01:00:54,250
aspects that is reported all over the

1227
01:00:50,380 --> 01:00:56,380
world is this concept of implants dr.

1228
01:00:54,250 --> 01:00:58,630
Leir has removed a number of these with

1229
01:00:56,380 --> 01:01:02,769
limited resources he has analyzed them

1230
01:00:58,630 --> 01:01:06,220
to the best that he could however his

1231
01:01:02,769 --> 01:01:09,940
resources have improved and recently an

1232
01:01:06,219 --> 01:01:12,039
individual a working engineer who I have

1233
01:01:09,940 --> 01:01:13,900
met very fine individual who could not

1234
01:01:12,039 --> 01:01:16,599
be here because the stress of coming

1235
01:01:13,900 --> 01:01:18,369
public in a very public fashion was so

1236
01:01:16,599 --> 01:01:20,019
great that he became physically ill and

1237
01:01:18,369 --> 01:01:21,880
the stress included of course dissension

1238
01:01:20,019 --> 01:01:24,789
within the family which is of course a

1239
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:27,610
result of the truth embargo but the

1240
01:01:24,789 --> 01:01:31,659
doctor will be available later time and

1241
01:01:27,610 --> 01:01:33,579
one of the an analyst is here and an

1242
01:01:31,659 --> 01:01:36,849
implant was removed of extraordinary

1243
01:01:33,579 --> 01:01:38,699
nature a breakthrough really and dr.

1244
01:01:36,849 --> 01:01:42,339
Leir is here to tell you about it now

1245
01:01:38,699 --> 01:01:44,739
we're not as all of the other speakers

1246
01:01:42,340 --> 01:01:46,059
that you saw tonight presenters he spoke

1247
01:01:44,739 --> 01:01:49,599
at the X conference at length an hour

1248
01:01:46,059 --> 01:01:52,389
and a half there's a DVD that has been

1249
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:53,679
made of that what he's trying to convey

1250
01:01:52,389 --> 01:01:57,129
is complex and difficult

1251
01:01:53,679 --> 01:01:58,569
there's no time here for a lecture so if

1252
01:01:57,130 --> 01:02:00,099
you want to we're going to get into this

1253
01:01:58,570 --> 01:02:01,740
you're going to have to get with him and

1254
01:02:00,099 --> 01:02:04,159
you're going to have to spend some time

1255
01:02:01,739 --> 01:02:06,379
but to the best that he can

1256
01:02:04,159 --> 01:02:09,288
he is going to present the essence of

1257
01:02:06,380 --> 01:02:11,150
this breakthrough to you today and then

1258
01:02:09,289 --> 01:02:13,910
it's up to you to decide whether you

1259
01:02:11,150 --> 01:02:16,068
think this is news I have a good hunch

1260
01:02:13,909 --> 01:02:18,009
you're gonna make the right decision dr.

1261
01:02:16,068 --> 01:02:20,150
Leir come up and it's anything you need

1262
01:02:18,010 --> 01:02:22,789
for me to help you in terms of setting

1263
01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:25,460
up the presentation and he will be

1264
01:02:22,789 --> 01:02:29,299
accompanied by Alex Moser one of a

1265
01:02:25,460 --> 01:02:32,960
number of analysts high level that have

1266
01:02:29,298 --> 01:02:38,809
examined this artifact and derived the

1267
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:43,369
information yeah thank you Steve good

1268
01:02:38,809 --> 01:02:44,359
morning ladies and gentlemen as Steve

1269
01:02:43,369 --> 01:02:46,818
outlined

1270
01:02:44,358 --> 01:02:49,250
I'm involved in research in just a very

1271
01:02:46,818 --> 01:02:52,699
small portion of the field of ufology

1272
01:02:49,250 --> 01:02:57,139
and we've made some startling

1273
01:02:52,699 --> 01:03:00,618
discoveries in the subject of alien

1274
01:02:57,139 --> 01:03:03,920
abduction now let me preface my remarks

1275
01:03:00,619 --> 01:03:06,588
by saying if there was any one president

1276
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:09,318
in this room or interested in reporting

1277
01:03:06,588 --> 01:03:12,250
this information to the public that

1278
01:03:09,318 --> 01:03:16,278
thinks that what I my remarks are funny

1279
01:03:12,250 --> 01:03:19,099
I think you're in the wrong place with

1280
01:03:16,278 --> 01:03:21,920
that being said i those of you that have

1281
01:03:19,099 --> 01:03:25,970
press packets i were a few of

1282
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:30,500
refrigerators slide number one the Roper

1283
01:03:25,969 --> 01:03:32,808
poll which was done in 2003 indicated

1284
01:03:30,500 --> 01:03:35,750
that there was approximately two percent

1285
01:03:32,809 --> 01:03:39,440
of the American population that was

1286
01:03:35,750 --> 01:03:41,719
involved in alien abduction we believe

1287
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:44,028
that's a conservative figure and if you

1288
01:03:41,719 --> 01:03:46,788
multiply this by the population of the

1289
01:03:44,028 --> 01:03:49,699
world we're not talking about tens of

1290
01:03:46,789 --> 01:03:53,859
thousands but we're talking about multi

1291
01:03:49,699 --> 01:03:57,500
millions of individuals some of these

1292
01:03:53,858 --> 01:04:02,469
some of these individuals have like

1293
01:03:57,500 --> 01:04:06,429
memories what's been done on a craft the

1294
01:04:02,469 --> 01:04:09,529
the objectives of what they can remember

1295
01:04:06,429 --> 01:04:13,789
most of them do not have

1296
01:04:09,530 --> 01:04:16,760
remember memories that are very very

1297
01:04:13,789 --> 01:04:20,059
explicit some need help with mem Lee

1298
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:24,410
memory retrieval what we've done is to

1299
01:04:20,059 --> 01:04:28,670
set up a situation in which we don't

1300
01:04:24,409 --> 01:04:32,480
allow anyone to undergo a surgical

1301
01:04:28,670 --> 01:04:35,599
procedure that has had previous hypnosis

1302
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:37,760
and that's just primarily from the fact

1303
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:40,579
that we don't need the criticism and a

1304
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:44,420
scientific study however if he infant

1305
01:04:40,579 --> 01:04:47,050
the information that is retrievable is

1306
01:04:44,420 --> 01:04:49,970
to be had we give that person the choice

1307
01:04:47,050 --> 01:04:52,910
following the surgery procedure and we

1308
01:04:49,969 --> 01:04:57,108
refer them to a qualified specialist in

1309
01:04:52,909 --> 01:05:00,649
that area slide 1a in the press packet

1310
01:04:57,108 --> 01:05:03,889
will show a picture of what one of these

1311
01:05:00,650 --> 01:05:07,039
objects looks like this is a t-shaped

1312
01:05:03,889 --> 01:05:10,009
object which is approximately a

1313
01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:13,159
sonometer in each direction covered with

1314
01:05:10,010 --> 01:05:16,940
a very strange biological coating a

1315
01:05:13,159 --> 01:05:19,338
coating that is so strong that when the

1316
01:05:16,940 --> 01:05:24,769
object is freshly removed you can't cut

1317
01:05:19,338 --> 01:05:28,460
through it with a surgical blade the

1318
01:05:24,769 --> 01:05:30,469
next slide is a slide 1 B shows another

1319
01:05:28,460 --> 01:05:33,769
kind of an object that we removed

1320
01:05:30,469 --> 01:05:37,269
another metallic rod which is also

1321
01:05:33,769 --> 01:05:41,989
covered with a like similar dark grey

1322
01:05:37,269 --> 01:05:43,909
impervious membrane and this material is

1323
01:05:41,989 --> 01:05:46,338
also very strong and you can't cut

1324
01:05:43,909 --> 01:05:49,730
through it with a surgical blade we have

1325
01:05:46,338 --> 01:05:52,759
at the present time with our 15

1326
01:05:49,730 --> 01:05:56,389
surgeries we have approximately seven of

1327
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:58,849
these objects in which you could line

1328
01:05:56,389 --> 01:06:01,879
them up on a surgical drape you would

1329
01:05:58,849 --> 01:06:06,859
not be able to tell one from the other

1330
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:09,920
next we'll refer you to slide two of the

1331
01:06:06,858 --> 01:06:13,670
15 surgeries that have been performed we

1332
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:16,519
have submitted these not in totality but

1333
01:06:13,670 --> 01:06:19,519
in piece because we haven't had the the

1334
01:06:16,519 --> 01:06:22,159
funds to really go into this

1335
01:06:19,519 --> 01:06:24,170
a full-blown project fortunately

1336
01:06:22,159 --> 01:06:26,269
fortunately I was able to get the

1337
01:06:24,170 --> 01:06:28,369
assistance at one time through the

1338
01:06:26,269 --> 01:06:31,190
national institute for discovery science

1339
01:06:28,369 --> 01:06:33,889
and that was much appreciated that's a

1340
01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:38,110
Bob Bigelow enterprise and I will always

1341
01:06:33,889 --> 01:06:41,389
be indebted to him for his help with us

1342
01:06:38,110 --> 01:06:43,550
now there are some biological aspects

1343
01:06:41,389 --> 01:06:46,579
which I have to ring or to mention at

1344
01:06:43,550 --> 01:06:49,430
this time if you get an object in you

1345
01:06:46,579 --> 01:06:52,429
you usually can see where it went in a

1346
01:06:49,429 --> 01:06:56,480
portal of entry something that's a

1347
01:06:52,429 --> 01:06:59,929
sonometer in various dimensions is a

1348
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:01,940
pretty big sized piece to get inside you

1349
01:06:59,929 --> 01:07:04,460
usually should be able to see where this

1350
01:07:01,940 --> 01:07:07,599
went in in none of these cases has there

1351
01:07:04,460 --> 01:07:13,250
been a scar or an opening in the skin

1352
01:07:07,599 --> 01:07:16,519
all the individuals who allege have

1353
01:07:13,250 --> 01:07:18,920
implants are submitted to some rigorous

1354
01:07:16,519 --> 01:07:21,739
examination before we have anything to

1355
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:24,650
do with them they must produce they must

1356
01:07:21,739 --> 01:07:27,889
produce either on an x-ray or a cat scan

1357
01:07:24,650 --> 01:07:31,360
a viable object which is more radio

1358
01:07:27,889 --> 01:07:33,739
dense than the surrounding area we see

1359
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:36,620
when these have been removed and we

1360
01:07:33,739 --> 01:07:38,899
examine the tissue pathologically goes

1361
01:07:36,619 --> 01:07:43,429
around the area there has been

1362
01:07:38,900 --> 01:07:47,690
absolutely no inflammatory or rejection

1363
01:07:43,429 --> 01:07:51,379
reaction this is within our technology

1364
01:07:47,690 --> 01:07:54,500
not possible the majority of these

1365
01:07:51,380 --> 01:07:57,890
objects as I described are these small

1366
01:07:54,500 --> 01:08:01,039
metallic rods covered with this very

1367
01:07:57,889 --> 01:08:04,369
strange biological coating and quite

1368
01:08:01,039 --> 01:08:06,679
recently we found out that I hope you're

1369
01:08:04,369 --> 01:08:09,889
all sitting down that this biological

1370
01:08:06,679 --> 01:08:14,000
coating seems to be growing from the

1371
01:08:09,889 --> 01:08:17,180
metallic structure within we believe

1372
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:20,750
that this biological tissue serves as a

1373
01:08:17,180 --> 01:08:23,750
barrier so that the body does not reject

1374
01:08:20,750 --> 01:08:26,449
the object or cause inflammation to

1375
01:08:23,750 --> 01:08:28,488
occur and as you can see if we had the

1376
01:08:26,449 --> 01:08:31,219
funds to back engineer this

1377
01:08:28,488 --> 01:08:34,099
and find out how this works it would be

1378
01:08:31,219 --> 01:08:37,279
a tremendous boon to medical science as

1379
01:08:34,100 --> 01:08:39,770
we can wrap a transplant organ a pen a

1380
01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:41,989
screw or something that nature put it

1381
01:08:39,770 --> 01:08:44,000
into the body and the individual would

1382
01:08:41,988 --> 01:08:48,488
no longer have to take immunosuppressive

1383
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:48,488
drugs for the rest of their lives I

1384
01:08:48,698 --> 01:08:54,678
refer you now to slide 3 and

1385
01:08:51,969 --> 01:08:57,588
unfortunately we can't do much with this

1386
01:08:54,679 --> 01:09:00,500
one because there is a small segment

1387
01:08:57,588 --> 01:09:03,259
about 30 seconds of one of the surgical

1388
01:09:00,500 --> 01:09:04,399
procedures that was performed we were

1389
01:09:03,259 --> 01:09:07,039
going to show that to you but

1390
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:09,079
unfortunately we weren't able to get

1391
01:09:07,039 --> 01:09:12,679
that facility set up

1392
01:09:09,079 --> 01:09:16,309
so in conclusion in reference to the

1393
01:09:12,679 --> 01:09:20,179
biological data we have looked at this

1394
01:09:16,310 --> 01:09:22,789
in quite an exceptional manner using

1395
01:09:20,179 --> 01:09:27,079
every bit of science that's are at our

1396
01:09:22,789 --> 01:09:31,060
disposal a disposal and we see that this

1397
01:09:27,079 --> 01:09:35,448
looks like it represents a science which

1398
01:09:31,060 --> 01:09:37,819
far exceeds the biological science that

1399
01:09:35,448 --> 01:09:40,969
we have on earth now when we get into

1400
01:09:37,819 --> 01:09:46,130
the metallic portion I don't feel

1401
01:09:40,969 --> 01:09:49,579
qualified I I had to learn the small

1402
01:09:46,130 --> 01:09:51,500
amount of metallurgy that I did in order

1403
01:09:49,579 --> 01:09:53,988
to continue the work but we're very

1404
01:09:51,500 --> 01:09:56,719
fortunate today ladies and gentlemen to

1405
01:09:53,988 --> 01:09:59,479
have one of the leading metallurgical

1406
01:09:56,719 --> 01:10:00,079
sciences with us that has worked on the

1407
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:04,879
project

1408
01:10:00,079 --> 01:10:06,559
our chief metallurgical science dr. Alex

1409
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:10,480
Moser if I can have you come up here

1410
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,480
Alex and you can take it from here

1411
01:10:15,670 --> 01:10:21,560
well my background first just to let you

1412
01:10:19,489 --> 01:10:24,849
know is I've got a PhD in physical

1413
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:27,410
chemistry I've got a lot of strength in

1414
01:10:24,850 --> 01:10:29,510
analytical instrumentation analysis

1415
01:10:27,409 --> 01:10:33,199
materials analysis of designed and and

1416
01:10:29,510 --> 01:10:38,420
and built my own instruments from Ramon

1417
01:10:33,199 --> 01:10:42,760
to haze meters and and and the like and

1418
01:10:38,420 --> 01:10:48,140
so we had a number of analysis performed

1419
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:50,570
both within while the sample was within

1420
01:10:48,140 --> 01:10:52,310
the body and also outside

1421
01:10:50,569 --> 01:10:55,880
now I'm gonna refer you to the

1422
01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:57,289
PowerPoint presentation that that well

1423
01:10:55,880 --> 01:11:00,739
kind of looks like this it's got I think

1424
01:10:57,289 --> 01:11:04,819
of this is black and white but it it has

1425
01:11:00,739 --> 01:11:06,829
a you know two PowerPoint slides per

1426
01:11:04,819 --> 01:11:08,420
page and we're starting off at slide

1427
01:11:06,829 --> 01:11:10,909
nine and that should be in the press kit

1428
01:11:08,420 --> 01:11:13,100
also let me apologize the press kit

1429
01:11:10,909 --> 01:11:15,470
produced I produce some really awful

1430
01:11:13,100 --> 01:11:17,780
images I printed them out on a

1431
01:11:15,470 --> 01:11:19,369
photographic printer and they didn't

1432
01:11:17,779 --> 01:11:21,529
seem to come out I think use of contrast

1433
01:11:19,369 --> 01:11:24,349
issues and I was planning to show them

1434
01:11:21,529 --> 01:11:26,539
with a projector so we'll be posting

1435
01:11:24,350 --> 01:11:28,430
that on a website if you're interested I

1436
01:11:26,539 --> 01:11:29,269
don't have that website just yet but

1437
01:11:28,430 --> 01:11:33,490
I'll let you know

1438
01:11:29,270 --> 01:11:33,490
afterwards closer to the minds but okay

1439
01:11:41,170 --> 01:11:49,569
oh I see the problem no problem okay so

1440
01:11:46,328 --> 01:11:51,328
if we refer to slide 10 we can see the

1441
01:11:49,569 --> 01:11:54,578
the summary of the analysis performed

1442
01:11:51,328 --> 01:11:57,340
first in in vivo that was a radio

1443
01:11:54,578 --> 01:12:01,229
frequency for determination of

1444
01:11:57,340 --> 01:12:04,449
electromagnetic emission x-ray for

1445
01:12:01,229 --> 01:12:07,649
object verification just as dr. Leir had

1446
01:12:04,448 --> 01:12:11,859
said and cat scan for object location

1447
01:12:07,649 --> 01:12:13,750
the in vitro essentially outside the

1448
01:12:11,859 --> 01:12:17,558
body in controlled conditions was

1449
01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:19,238
optical microscopy and that was just for

1450
01:12:17,559 --> 01:12:21,760
looking at microscopic appearance and

1451
01:12:19,238 --> 01:12:25,419
comparing it to other similar objects

1452
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:27,940
and also SEM EDX which is scanning

1453
01:12:25,420 --> 01:12:31,809
electron microscopy so we can look at

1454
01:12:27,939 --> 01:12:34,868
nanyem nanoscale structures and also

1455
01:12:31,809 --> 01:12:37,690
coupled with that is EDX which is energy

1456
01:12:34,868 --> 01:12:40,089
dispersive x-ray fluorescence

1457
01:12:37,689 --> 01:12:43,299
spectroscopy and that's just for

1458
01:12:40,090 --> 01:12:46,630
elemental analysis down to the sub

1459
01:12:43,300 --> 01:12:49,270
percent range we also did ramon which

1460
01:12:46,630 --> 01:12:51,578
kind of which looks at the vibrational

1461
01:12:49,270 --> 01:12:54,070
modes of either molecules or crystals

1462
01:12:51,578 --> 01:12:58,840
and that's for chemical determination

1463
01:12:54,069 --> 01:13:01,658
and also icp-ms which is inductively

1464
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:03,670
coupled plasma mass spectrometry for

1465
01:13:01,658 --> 01:13:05,979
elemental and hopefully isotopic

1466
01:13:03,670 --> 01:13:10,569
analysis if we go to the next slide

1467
01:13:05,979 --> 01:13:12,928
slide 11 it just shows the the results

1468
01:13:10,569 --> 01:13:17,618
for the electromagnetic analysis and

1469
01:13:12,929 --> 01:13:20,819
from a Gauss meter we saw that the

1470
01:13:17,618 --> 01:13:25,000
magnetic strength was between 5 and 10

1471
01:13:20,819 --> 01:13:27,219
milligauss and with a radio a few

1472
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,630
different radio frequency analyzers we

1473
01:13:27,219 --> 01:13:31,779
could see that there there were radio

1474
01:13:28,630 --> 01:13:34,840
frequency emissions around the 14 point

1475
01:13:31,779 --> 01:13:37,179
7 megahertz range and also in the

1476
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:41,828
gigahertz range at seventeen point six

1477
01:13:37,179 --> 01:13:43,750
gigahertz and and so this just show this

1478
01:13:41,828 --> 01:13:47,469
just shows that that there seems to be

1479
01:13:43,750 --> 01:13:50,408
some unusual and emission we would like

1480
01:13:47,469 --> 01:13:51,649
to have some more control tests but

1481
01:13:50,408 --> 01:13:53,119
initially this show

1482
01:13:51,649 --> 01:13:57,698
that there could be some unusual

1483
01:13:53,119 --> 01:14:02,029
behavior occurring if you go to slide 12

1484
01:13:57,698 --> 01:14:04,250
with the x-ray the image doesn't show up

1485
01:14:02,029 --> 01:14:08,329
the object doesn't show up very well on

1486
01:14:04,250 --> 01:14:10,609
these images and so again we'll post

1487
01:14:08,329 --> 01:14:13,069
these on our website but you can you can

1488
01:14:10,609 --> 01:14:16,429
clearly well if you look carefully you

1489
01:14:13,069 --> 01:14:19,189
can see that there's an object showing

1490
01:14:16,429 --> 01:14:23,050
right next to the bone but separated

1491
01:14:19,189 --> 01:14:28,460
from the bone in the in the subjects toe

1492
01:14:23,050 --> 01:14:30,500
and the optical microscopy there's

1493
01:14:28,460 --> 01:14:34,789
essentially three different columns in

1494
01:14:30,500 --> 01:14:38,170
the press pack and the first column

1495
01:14:34,789 --> 01:14:40,729
shows the object under low magnification

1496
01:14:38,170 --> 01:14:42,380
the second column shows the object under

1497
01:14:40,729 --> 01:14:46,549
higher magnification and the last column

1498
01:14:42,380 --> 01:14:48,679
just for comparison shows meteorite

1499
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:50,179
fragments and you can see there's

1500
01:14:48,679 --> 01:14:52,279
similarities and there's also some

1501
01:14:50,179 --> 01:14:55,730
differences similarities that has the

1502
01:14:52,279 --> 01:14:59,329
same color tones it likely has similar

1503
01:14:55,729 --> 01:15:01,519
composition in oxides the difference the

1504
01:14:59,329 --> 01:15:03,380
biggest difference is that the object

1505
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:07,810
taking out taken out of the subjects

1506
01:15:03,380 --> 01:15:12,159
body had some kind of a sheen to it

1507
01:15:07,810 --> 01:15:14,810
which possibly could be a silicon

1508
01:15:12,158 --> 01:15:19,039
material or some other hard material

1509
01:15:14,810 --> 01:15:23,030
hard shell and and then if you go to

1510
01:15:19,039 --> 01:15:25,399
slide 14 you can see the results at

1511
01:15:23,029 --> 01:15:28,539
least for the scanning electron

1512
01:15:25,399 --> 01:15:30,859
microscopy and here again we've got

1513
01:15:28,539 --> 01:15:33,050
different columns with different sorts

1514
01:15:30,859 --> 01:15:34,969
of materials with the first column the

1515
01:15:33,050 --> 01:15:37,699
column on the left you can see there

1516
01:15:34,969 --> 01:15:40,550
there's this is actually from the object

1517
01:15:37,698 --> 01:15:44,059
itself and it shows some kind of nano

1518
01:15:40,550 --> 01:15:47,270
fibers and for comparison in the middle

1519
01:15:44,060 --> 01:15:50,000
column you can see that we've got a

1520
01:15:47,270 --> 01:15:52,060
standard image of carbon nanotubes

1521
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:55,069
single-walled carbon nanotubes and

1522
01:15:52,060 --> 01:15:59,780
there's certainly similarity in in the

1523
01:15:55,069 --> 01:16:03,079
scales and blanks and then also an

1524
01:15:59,779 --> 01:16:03,769
interesting nano crystal showed up as

1525
01:16:03,079 --> 01:16:04,448
well

1526
01:16:03,770 --> 01:16:07,329
we

1527
01:16:04,448 --> 01:16:10,868
turned out to be primarily sodium

1528
01:16:07,328 --> 01:16:12,399
chloride through EDX analysis but the

1529
01:16:10,868 --> 01:16:15,038
unusual thing is first of all these

1530
01:16:12,399 --> 01:16:16,689
things form sodium chloride should have

1531
01:16:15,038 --> 01:16:20,069
a certain type of type of crystal habit

1532
01:16:16,689 --> 01:16:22,988
a very cubic crystal habit sometimes

1533
01:16:20,069 --> 01:16:25,448
because of crystal growth reasons it

1534
01:16:22,988 --> 01:16:27,009
will be slightly off from that the

1535
01:16:25,448 --> 01:16:27,908
unusual thing about these crystals is

1536
01:16:27,010 --> 01:16:30,130
that they produced

1537
01:16:27,908 --> 01:16:31,538
an orthorhombic crystal habit what

1538
01:16:30,130 --> 01:16:33,248
appears to be an orthorhombic crystal

1539
01:16:31,538 --> 01:16:37,509
habit which is unusual for sodium

1540
01:16:33,248 --> 01:16:40,708
chloride so this speaks of possibly some

1541
01:16:37,510 --> 01:16:45,099
kind of advanced engineering of crystals

1542
01:16:40,708 --> 01:16:47,380
perhaps for the use of their harvesting

1543
01:16:45,099 --> 01:16:53,288
energy or creating some kind of

1544
01:16:47,380 --> 01:16:55,538
resonator and and then supporting that

1545
01:16:53,288 --> 01:17:00,578
we have Raman spectroscopy

1546
01:16:55,538 --> 01:17:01,768
which shows up on slide 15 and we have

1547
01:17:00,578 --> 01:17:04,988
two graphs here

1548
01:17:01,769 --> 01:17:07,449
Raman is is basically again for probing

1549
01:17:04,988 --> 01:17:10,178
vibrational modes and fingerprinting

1550
01:17:07,448 --> 01:17:13,868
what types of molecules or crystals you

1551
01:17:10,179 --> 01:17:17,368
might have in the object and we've got

1552
01:17:13,868 --> 01:17:20,589
the graph on the left-hand side is is

1553
01:17:17,368 --> 01:17:23,109
essentially looking at very low

1554
01:17:20,590 --> 01:17:25,288
vibrational very low energy modes and

1555
01:17:23,109 --> 01:17:28,569
the graph on the right hand side

1556
01:17:25,288 --> 01:17:31,779
actually looks like you probably can't

1557
01:17:28,569 --> 01:17:35,698
see that the graph on the right hand

1558
01:17:31,779 --> 01:17:39,099
side shows the higher energy modes

1559
01:17:35,698 --> 01:17:42,428
within this material and the interesting

1560
01:17:39,099 --> 01:17:46,958
thing is we compare it with a few

1561
01:17:42,429 --> 01:17:48,940
different known materials one the one

1562
01:17:46,958 --> 01:17:52,389
with the the strongest signal is just

1563
01:17:48,939 --> 01:17:55,238
pure single-walled carbon nanotubes it's

1564
01:17:52,389 --> 01:18:00,069
also compared the object is is compared

1565
01:17:55,238 --> 01:18:02,708
against a meteorite fragment and also

1566
01:18:00,069 --> 01:18:05,109
against silicon and you can see that

1567
01:18:02,708 --> 01:18:06,849
there's certain bands around a little

1568
01:18:05,109 --> 01:18:11,049
little lower than 16-hundred wave

1569
01:18:06,849 --> 01:18:12,670
numbers and that that there's clearly a

1570
01:18:11,050 --> 01:18:15,038
band there for carbon nanotubes and

1571
01:18:12,670 --> 01:18:17,309
there's also a small band that shows up

1572
01:18:15,038 --> 01:18:19,769
in the object as well

1573
01:18:17,309 --> 01:18:24,960
and and that band doesn't appear in a

1574
01:18:19,770 --> 01:18:28,079
regular known media right now so so that

1575
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:30,800
supports the previous slides the the

1576
01:18:28,078 --> 01:18:36,269
previous scanning electron micrographs

1577
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:39,989
that those those nano fibers could be

1578
01:18:36,270 --> 01:18:44,340
carbon nanotubes the the correlation is

1579
01:18:39,988 --> 01:18:48,209
is is pretty stark actually and and so

1580
01:18:44,340 --> 01:18:52,078
again having something like carbon

1581
01:18:48,210 --> 01:18:55,349
nanotubes or nano fibers in this sort of

1582
01:18:52,078 --> 01:18:59,880
object you don't find these things in

1583
01:18:55,349 --> 01:19:03,139
nature they have to be somehow processed

1584
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:06,420
engineered and they're not easy to make

1585
01:19:03,139 --> 01:19:08,609
so and and of course the the field of

1586
01:19:06,420 --> 01:19:12,599
carbon nanotubes is is is getting to be

1587
01:19:08,609 --> 01:19:17,250
rather large now it's a it's an area of

1588
01:19:12,599 --> 01:19:18,960
exploration in the sciences and and so

1589
01:19:17,250 --> 01:19:21,979
we suspect that there's some kind of

1590
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:25,920
Engineering occurring within this object

1591
01:19:21,979 --> 01:19:29,459
the ICP mass spect the mass spectrometry

1592
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:32,190
which also gives some kind of elemental

1593
01:19:29,460 --> 01:19:36,599
analysis and and even can offer some

1594
01:19:32,189 --> 01:19:41,250
kind of isotopic ratio analysis also

1595
01:19:36,599 --> 01:19:44,639
showed some unusual data and essentially

1596
01:19:41,250 --> 01:19:48,779
and this is on slide 16 because of the

1597
01:19:44,639 --> 01:19:52,500
presence of gallium germanium platinum

1598
01:19:48,779 --> 01:19:54,389
ruthenium rhodium and iridium in the

1599
01:19:52,500 --> 01:20:01,828
combination in which he's elements show

1600
01:19:54,389 --> 01:20:03,300
up it's typical of a meteor example now

1601
01:20:01,828 --> 01:20:06,359
there are many different types of

1602
01:20:03,300 --> 01:20:09,840
meteors that have been analyzed but but

1603
01:20:06,359 --> 01:20:11,308
having that combination and the

1604
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:14,578
concentration combinations of those

1605
01:20:11,309 --> 01:20:18,900
elements indicates that this might be a

1606
01:20:14,578 --> 01:20:23,908
meteoric sample or something along those

1607
01:20:18,899 --> 01:20:25,969
lines also there was a deviation of

1608
01:20:23,908 --> 01:20:28,009
nickel this is looking

1609
01:20:25,969 --> 01:20:30,710
yeah a deviation of nickel from

1610
01:20:28,010 --> 01:20:35,150
terrestrial isotopic ratios that the

1611
01:20:30,710 --> 01:20:40,880
analysis lab couldn't explain and it

1612
01:20:35,149 --> 01:20:42,710
requires further study and so the

1613
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:45,050
combination of all these things if we go

1614
01:20:42,710 --> 01:20:47,539
to the conclusions the combination of

1615
01:20:45,050 --> 01:20:52,460
all this data indicates some kind of

1616
01:20:47,539 --> 01:20:56,149
unusually or unusual engineering within

1617
01:20:52,460 --> 01:20:59,180
this object and elemental analysis

1618
01:20:56,149 --> 01:21:02,029
indicates it's likely non terrestrial it

1619
01:20:59,180 --> 01:21:02,750
could be meteoric possibly it could be

1620
01:21:02,029 --> 01:21:05,948
something else

1621
01:21:02,750 --> 01:21:09,170
the SEM and Raman analysis indicate

1622
01:21:05,948 --> 01:21:12,139
carbon nanotubes in the object today

1623
01:21:09,170 --> 01:21:13,190
carbon nanotubes have not been found in

1624
01:21:12,140 --> 01:21:15,469
meteorites

1625
01:21:13,189 --> 01:21:19,609
there's one meteorite that's been

1626
01:21:15,469 --> 01:21:22,119
analysed that showed some kind of carbon

1627
01:21:19,609 --> 01:21:24,679
onion structures or something resembling

1628
01:21:22,119 --> 01:21:27,319
buckyballs but nobody's ever found any

1629
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:30,500
anything resembling carbon nano

1630
01:21:27,319 --> 01:21:32,988
structures or threads or fibers so this

1631
01:21:30,500 --> 01:21:34,609
is unusual in itself and of course the

1632
01:21:32,988 --> 01:21:37,218
electromagnetic emissions indicate

1633
01:21:34,609 --> 01:21:40,369
possibility of a functional device that

1634
01:21:37,219 --> 01:21:42,920
may serve to monitor or control now all

1635
01:21:40,369 --> 01:21:45,439
of this analysis that was performed was

1636
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:47,750
performed on a relatively low budget and

1637
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:50,750
you know to really do a very thorough

1638
01:21:47,750 --> 01:21:53,479
analysis we we need more money to do

1639
01:21:50,750 --> 01:21:56,329
this work just to pay for the analysis

1640
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:58,488
itself and there's many other analysis

1641
01:21:56,329 --> 01:22:00,979
that we could do that might show some

1642
01:21:58,488 --> 01:22:03,169
kind of a circuitry or some kind of

1643
01:22:00,979 --> 01:22:06,619
structure similar similar to some kind

1644
01:22:03,170 --> 01:22:08,420
of a operating circuit and and and so we

1645
01:22:06,619 --> 01:22:10,010
need to be able to perform those

1646
01:22:08,420 --> 01:22:14,300
analysis and pay for those analysis and

1647
01:22:10,010 --> 01:22:16,579
go through the whole entire analytical

1648
01:22:14,300 --> 01:22:23,000
process and in a much more thorough

1649
01:22:16,579 --> 01:22:25,670
manner stay right there

1650
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:27,409
do we have any questions at this time

1651
01:22:25,670 --> 01:22:29,869
about this this is very sophisticated

1652
01:22:27,409 --> 01:22:31,828
stuff tom Valon is a very sophisticated

1653
01:22:29,869 --> 01:22:47,368
guy

1654
01:22:31,828 --> 01:22:49,078
the two emissions in the makers of it it

1655
01:22:47,368 --> 01:22:50,969
right yeah I mean we really don't know

1656
01:22:49,078 --> 01:22:54,299
it certainly could be and it would make

1657
01:22:50,969 --> 01:22:55,828
sense I mean to power device over the

1658
01:22:54,300 --> 01:22:57,510
long term requires some kind of an

1659
01:22:55,828 --> 01:22:59,130
energy harvesting and there's plenty of

1660
01:22:57,510 --> 01:23:02,840
energy sources within the body itself

1661
01:22:59,130 --> 01:23:08,550
either thermal vibrational

1662
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:11,699
electromagnetic as well not not not in

1663
01:23:08,550 --> 01:23:14,190
not in an in a fashion that was

1664
01:23:11,698 --> 01:23:15,928
controlled to my liking I mean we have

1665
01:23:14,189 --> 01:23:28,589
to have it in within a Faraday cage and

1666
01:23:15,929 --> 01:23:31,340
make very careful measure of dr. a

1667
01:23:28,590 --> 01:23:36,590
circuit does your research show that

1668
01:23:31,340 --> 01:23:39,300
this was a non terrestrial and B

1669
01:23:36,590 --> 01:23:45,470
it it's very likely it is

1670
01:23:39,300 --> 01:23:49,710
non-terrestrial I'm let's say 95% sure

1671
01:23:45,470 --> 01:23:51,710
and whether it's a device or not I would

1672
01:23:49,710 --> 01:23:54,569
say the electromagnetic emissions

1673
01:23:51,710 --> 01:23:57,359
indicate that also there's about a 90%

1674
01:23:54,569 --> 01:24:02,969
chance that it's a functional device but

1675
01:23:57,359 --> 01:24:15,079
we really need to do a lot more work oh

1676
01:24:02,970 --> 01:24:18,420
yes yes absolutely yeah right question

1677
01:24:15,079 --> 01:24:22,559
does the device continue transmitting

1678
01:24:18,420 --> 01:24:26,750
once is in vitro sorry buddy no I don't

1679
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:26,750
think so no no I don't think we had

1680
01:24:28,250 --> 01:24:38,399
about six weeks okay right it doesn't

1681
01:24:36,689 --> 01:24:41,479
seem to it to emit and anything else

1682
01:24:38,399 --> 01:24:41,479
after that time yeah

1683
01:24:52,569 --> 01:24:56,949
well--there's yeah did you want to

1684
01:24:55,060 --> 01:25:01,780
answer that one because there's many

1685
01:24:56,949 --> 01:25:05,979
different answers the abduction

1686
01:25:01,779 --> 01:25:09,099
phenomena involves in linear time

1687
01:25:05,979 --> 01:25:12,459
varying amounts of time now I've studied

1688
01:25:09,100 --> 01:25:15,100
these cases over a period of number of

1689
01:25:12,460 --> 01:25:18,670
years and as you know the Travis Walton

1690
01:25:15,100 --> 01:25:21,810
case is the case in which the individual

1691
01:25:18,670 --> 01:25:25,119
was taken aboard a craft and it was days

1692
01:25:21,810 --> 01:25:29,449
later before he was returned in linear

1693
01:25:25,119 --> 01:25:33,500
time however many

1694
01:25:29,448 --> 01:25:35,869
Arthur is seemingly no time differential

1695
01:25:33,500 --> 01:25:38,149
between the time they are taken and the

1696
01:25:35,869 --> 01:25:40,069
time they were returned there are other

1697
01:25:38,149 --> 01:25:44,649
things about the phenomenon which

1698
01:25:40,069 --> 01:25:47,079
require a lot more study and a better

1699
01:25:44,649 --> 01:25:50,929
understanding through earthly science

1700
01:25:47,079 --> 01:25:53,979
the reports by individuals who are on a

1701
01:25:50,929 --> 01:25:57,619
craft may see things that are

1702
01:25:53,979 --> 01:26:00,198
disproportionate to what we see as far

1703
01:25:57,619 --> 01:26:02,869
as even in linear measurement a craft

1704
01:26:00,198 --> 01:26:05,539
from the outside may look like it's one

1705
01:26:02,869 --> 01:26:07,969
dimension on the inside they can look

1706
01:26:05,539 --> 01:26:11,800
like it's a ten to fifteen times the

1707
01:26:07,969 --> 01:26:15,619
size so to get to answer your question

1708
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:18,400
as in linear time that's the the best

1709
01:26:15,619 --> 01:26:21,500
example I can give it's either from zero

1710
01:26:18,399 --> 01:26:28,539
to the long longest known case is about

1711
01:26:21,500 --> 01:26:28,539
seven days yes

1712
01:26:39,238 --> 01:26:44,229
that's that's true because the average

1713
01:26:42,039 --> 01:26:47,170
abduction case that they are not gone

1714
01:26:44,229 --> 01:26:49,718
for seven days and the Travis Walton

1715
01:26:47,170 --> 01:26:52,239
case was a rather unusual case which I

1716
01:26:49,719 --> 01:26:54,939
won't go into but the family and the

1717
01:26:52,238 --> 01:26:58,319
police department of snowflake Arizona

1718
01:26:54,939 --> 01:27:02,618
we're looking for this man he was a

1719
01:26:58,319 --> 01:27:05,380
forester and he was with a crew and the

1720
01:27:02,618 --> 01:27:08,889
crew had been taken in and accused of

1721
01:27:05,380 --> 01:27:12,310
kidnapping and murder so this this is

1722
01:27:08,889 --> 01:27:16,060
not not typical of an ordinary abduction

1723
01:27:12,310 --> 01:27:18,159
cut short so we need more the abduction

1724
01:27:16,060 --> 01:27:20,320
phenomena of contactee phenomena is vast

1725
01:27:18,158 --> 01:27:22,839
the resources are enormous you can go

1726
01:27:20,319 --> 01:27:25,029
out and spend many weeks reading it yeah

1727
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:27,639
if you got a question specific to this

1728
01:27:25,029 --> 01:27:29,859
implant extraordinary physics any

1729
01:27:27,639 --> 01:27:31,270
questions there any more okay would you

1730
01:27:29,859 --> 01:27:33,839
go ahead and sit down please thank you

1731
01:27:31,270 --> 01:27:33,840
so much gentlemen

1732
01:27:37,229 --> 01:27:43,209
but I will add this that tens of

1733
01:27:41,770 --> 01:27:45,460
thousands and thousands of reports are

1734
01:27:43,210 --> 01:27:48,429
coming out many of them involve implants

1735
01:27:45,460 --> 01:27:50,349
many of these have been analyzed they

1736
01:27:48,429 --> 01:27:53,739
come from in the navel cavities other

1737
01:27:50,349 --> 01:27:55,449
parts of the brain ear lobes arms and

1738
01:27:53,738 --> 01:27:56,678
what-have-you it's extraordinary

1739
01:27:55,448 --> 01:27:58,750
physical evidence

1740
01:27:56,679 --> 01:28:00,609
I point this out not because I believe

1741
01:27:58,750 --> 01:28:01,988
it's necessary to confirm et presence

1742
01:28:00,609 --> 01:28:04,299
that's been proven many times over in

1743
01:28:01,988 --> 01:28:07,209
fact it was proven by 1952 but there are

1744
01:28:04,300 --> 01:28:10,000
people who like that physical stuff they

1745
01:28:07,210 --> 01:28:11,289
want to see that well there it is so one

1746
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:14,408
can look into this at their at their

1747
01:28:11,289 --> 01:28:16,238
leisure dr. Leroy and and Alex will be

1748
01:28:14,408 --> 01:28:18,279
available afterwards all right and you

1749
01:28:16,238 --> 01:28:19,718
can question them then now I'm gonna

1750
01:28:18,279 --> 01:28:23,769
bring this down to a close some

1751
01:28:19,719 --> 01:28:26,408
housekeeping things very quickly Alfred

1752
01:28:23,770 --> 01:28:28,480
and dr. Alexander your ride will be

1753
01:28:26,408 --> 01:28:29,859
waiting for you at 12 directly

1754
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,779
downstairs you want to get downstairs

1755
01:28:29,859 --> 01:28:33,969
out the fourteenth Street entrance about

1756
01:28:31,779 --> 01:28:35,529
five of 12 and you'll be gone it's

1757
01:28:33,969 --> 01:28:40,618
Jeffrey Jenkins all right

1758
01:28:35,529 --> 01:28:44,729
secondly all speakers and activists

1759
01:28:40,618 --> 01:28:47,170
connected to PRG and special PRG guests

1760
01:28:44,729 --> 01:28:49,149
are to meet in the Fourth Estate

1761
01:28:47,170 --> 01:28:51,970
restaurant for a working lunch for the

1762
01:28:49,149 --> 01:28:53,529
next few hours you can go in really

1763
01:28:51,970 --> 01:28:57,909
anytime they're kind of set up but we'll

1764
01:28:53,529 --> 01:29:01,630
get underway around 12:00 again to

1765
01:28:57,909 --> 01:29:04,269
finish this is the paradigm research

1766
01:29:01,630 --> 01:29:06,609
group press conference after the X

1767
01:29:04,270 --> 01:29:08,850
conference 2009 held at the Hilton

1768
01:29:06,609 --> 01:29:13,420
Gaithersburg it will be held again in

1769
01:29:08,850 --> 01:29:15,640
April of 2010 I believe as I've said

1770
01:29:13,420 --> 01:29:18,190
publicly on many many radio and

1771
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:19,990
television programs that the Obama

1772
01:29:18,189 --> 01:29:21,069
administration through the nature of who

1773
01:29:19,989 --> 01:29:23,859
they have appointed and other

1774
01:29:21,069 --> 01:29:27,340
indications and other information I'm

1775
01:29:23,859 --> 01:29:30,670
receiving has made a decision to

1776
01:29:27,340 --> 01:29:32,110
disclose the et presence but that is of

1777
01:29:30,670 --> 01:29:35,619
course an assessment they are certainly

1778
01:29:32,109 --> 01:29:37,269
not saying anything all right however

1779
01:29:35,619 --> 01:29:40,300
the window of opportunity is very very

1780
01:29:37,270 --> 01:29:42,520
wide we are encouraging the

1781
01:29:40,300 --> 01:29:44,980
administration which is dedicated itself

1782
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:46,930
to open and transparent government to

1783
01:29:44,979 --> 01:29:49,989
commit the ultimate act of openness and

1784
01:29:46,930 --> 01:29:52,360
transparency and to do it immediately

1785
01:29:49,989 --> 01:29:55,510
before this truth embargo becomes it's

1786
01:29:52,359 --> 01:29:58,630
embargo and it has to explain its

1787
01:29:55,510 --> 01:30:00,850
reasons for delay at a critical time in

1788
01:29:58,630 --> 01:30:05,230
the human races how would you say

1789
01:30:00,850 --> 01:30:09,610
development on multiple fronts if it

1790
01:30:05,229 --> 01:30:12,089
does not disclose by the end of May this

1791
01:30:09,609 --> 01:30:14,109
is not a threat or anything

1792
01:30:12,090 --> 01:30:16,770
don't threaten the United States

1793
01:30:14,109 --> 01:30:18,960
government there have an arm

1794
01:30:16,770 --> 01:30:21,060
but the first hundred days plus 30

1795
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:24,210
because I have to admit this gentleman

1796
01:30:21,060 --> 01:30:26,910
came into a rather extensive array of

1797
01:30:24,210 --> 01:30:28,980
very profound problems so we're

1798
01:30:26,909 --> 01:30:32,849
providing an additional 30 days if

1799
01:30:28,979 --> 01:30:35,819
explosions not taking place PRG has

1800
01:30:32,850 --> 01:30:39,200
enormous it has a substantial network

1801
01:30:35,819 --> 01:30:41,460
and quite a bit of documentary evidence

1802
01:30:39,199 --> 01:30:43,109
connected to this particular politically

1803
01:30:41,460 --> 01:30:44,430
particularly to the Rockefeller

1804
01:30:43,109 --> 01:30:46,380
initiative the Clinton ministration and

1805
01:30:44,430 --> 01:30:49,140
we are going to be extensively putting

1806
01:30:46,380 --> 01:30:50,850
that out to the media and we're just

1807
01:30:49,140 --> 01:30:53,820
going to make it as difficult on them as

1808
01:30:50,850 --> 01:30:57,030
possible we don't want to but sometimes

1809
01:30:53,819 --> 01:31:00,000
that's necessary and finally if they

1810
01:30:57,029 --> 01:31:02,939
choose not to disclose by the end of May

1811
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:05,460
and wait maybe they want June maybe July

1812
01:31:02,939 --> 01:31:07,259
or whenever it's convenient there is a

1813
01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:09,239
very real possibility I believe about

1814
01:31:07,260 --> 01:31:11,250
50/50 that another nation will in fact

1815
01:31:09,239 --> 01:31:13,469
act preemptively and preemptively

1816
01:31:11,250 --> 01:31:15,720
proactively on their own and disclose

1817
01:31:13,470 --> 01:31:17,070
the extra-terrestrial presence and they

1818
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:18,630
will wake up and they will pick up the

1819
01:31:17,069 --> 01:31:21,299
Washington Post of The Washington Times

1820
01:31:18,630 --> 01:31:24,180
and the headline will read president

1821
01:31:21,300 --> 01:31:26,970
Sarkozy of France today will tell the

1822
01:31:24,180 --> 01:31:28,500
French people about the confirmation of

1823
01:31:26,970 --> 01:31:31,500
an extraterrestrial presence and provide

1824
01:31:28,500 --> 01:31:34,289
evidence from the French military files

1825
01:31:31,500 --> 01:31:36,989
and we will follow and they will lead

1826
01:31:34,289 --> 01:31:38,909
that's what's at issue today I think

1827
01:31:36,989 --> 01:31:40,979
it's a pretty big issue we're getting a

1828
01:31:38,909 --> 01:31:44,609
lot of calls for dr. Mitchell to appear

1829
01:31:40,979 --> 01:31:46,019
on some very fine shows that may not be

1830
01:31:44,609 --> 01:31:48,509
possible right away he has some

1831
01:31:46,020 --> 01:31:50,430
substantial demands on his time but

1832
01:31:48,510 --> 01:31:52,710
believe me he wants to do those shows

1833
01:31:50,430 --> 01:31:55,470
and we will do everything we can to

1834
01:31:52,710 --> 01:31:57,420
service those requests but I hope those

1835
01:31:55,470 --> 01:31:59,670
requests will keep coming in after this

1836
01:31:57,420 --> 01:32:02,220
is maybe faded just a touch out of the

1837
01:31:59,670 --> 01:32:04,350
out of the news cycle I thank you so

1838
01:32:02,220 --> 01:32:06,630
much for coming today we look forward to

1839
01:32:04,350 --> 01:32:10,980
perhaps another press conference maybe

1840
01:32:06,630 --> 01:32:13,159
after disclosure in April of 2010 thank

1841
01:32:10,979 --> 01:32:13,159
you